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Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve been doing more trailer mending work. We’ve got a 25 year old Marshall 10 ton trailer that the walking axles were very warn on. The trailer tends to get used to shift a lot of muck and is constantly going through a lot of puddles and mud. The grease nipples to lubricate the axle pin and bushes gave up working years ago. The mud and water acting just like grinding paste wasn’t helping. The wheels were running at quite and angle rather than vertical and were beginning to worry me. Especially as this trailer doubles up as the Guns and beaters trailer for the shooting season.
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We took the body off the chassis and noticed that not only was the main pin bent but extremely warn at each end because there was not a special bush to hold it where it gets most punishment.
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So we decided to make a new, longer pin to accommodate new extra bushes either side.
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On top of which we welded the new shaft to the bush and fitted a grease nipple to it that will feed grease into the walking axle bushes.
Between each part of the walking beam, we fitted a sleeve over the new shaft with another grease nipple. The idea being to keep dirt and mud out of the walking beam bushes and also to feed grease to both the inner and outer beam bushes.
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One of the walking beams was so badly warn that its outer bush had completely gone and cracked the box section holding it. So we replaced the box section and bush on it
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I am so impressed with the hydraulic tail gate it put on another of our trailers (post 8,830), I’ve decided to do the same on this trailer.
I’ve just sourced two more 2nd hand double acting rams, which were NH unloading auger rams of a couple of scrapped TF42’s from Will Slatter at Cotswold Combines.

I’ll put up more pictures as it comes to fruition, next week.
 
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hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
I’ve been doing more trailer mending work. We’ve got a 25 year old Marshall 10 ton trailer that the walking axles were very warn on. The trailer tends to get used to shift a lot of muck and is constantly going through a lot of puddles and mud. The grease nipples to lubricate the axle pin and bushes gave up working years ago. The mud and water acting just like grinding paste wasn’t helping. The wheels were running at quite and angle rather than vertical and were beginning to worry me. Especially as this trailer doubles up as the Guns and beaters trailer for the shooting season.
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We took the body off the chassis and noticed that not only was the main pin bent but extremely warn at each end because there was not a special bush to hold it where it gets most punishment.
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So we decided to make a new, longer pin to accommodate new extra bushes either side.
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On top of which we welded the new shaft to the bush and fitted a grease nipple to it that will feed grease into the walking axle bushes.
Between each part of the walking beam, we fitted a sleeve over the new shaft with another grease nipple. The idea being to keep dirt and mud out of the walking beam bushes and also to feed grease to both the inner and outer beam bushes.
View attachment 861026
One of the walking beams was so badly warn that its outer bush had completely gone and cracked the box section holding it. So we replaced the box section and bush on it
View attachment 861025

I am so impressed with the hydraulic tail gate it put on another of our trailers (post 8,830), I’ve decided to do the same on this trailer.
I’ve just sourced two more 2nd hand double acting rams, which were NH unloading auger rams of a couple of scrapped TF42’s from Will Slatter at Cotswold Combines.

I’ll put up more pictures as it comes to fruition, next week.
That belongs in the engineering thread :cool: (y)?
 

Willie adie

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I’ve been doing more trailer mending work. We’ve got a 25 year old Marshall 10 ton trailer that the walking axles were very warn on. The trailer tends to get used to shift a lot of muck and is constantly going through a lot of puddles and mud. The grease nipples to lubricate the axle pin and bushes gave up working years ago. The mud and water acting just like grinding paste wasn’t helping. The wheels were running at quite and angle rather than vertical and were beginning to worry me. Especially as this trailer doubles up as the Guns and beaters trailer for the shooting season.
View attachment 861028
We took the body off the chassis and noticed that not only was the main pin bent but extremely warn at each end because there was not a special bush to hold it where it gets most punishment.
View attachment 861022
So we decided to make a new, longer pin to accommodate new extra bushes either side.
View attachment 861023
On top of which we welded the new shaft to the bush and fitted a grease nipple to it that will feed grease into the walking axle bushes.
Between each part of the walking beam, we fitted a sleeve over the new shaft with another grease nipple. The idea being to keep dirt and mud out of the walking beam bushes and also to feed grease to both the inner and outer beam bushes.
View attachment 861026
One of the walking beams was so badly warn that its outer bush had completely gone and cracked the box section holding it. So we replaced the box section and bush on it
View attachment 861025

I am so impressed with the hydraulic tail gate it put on another of our trailers (post 8,830), I’ve decided to do the same on this trailer.
I’ve just sourced two more 2nd hand double acting rams, which were NH unloading auger rams of a couple of scrapped TF42’s from Will Slatter at Cotswold Combines.

I’ll put up more pictures as it comes to fruition, next week.
Looks in better nick than some of the new stuff being put out
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Looks in better nick than some of the new stuff being put out
Thank you. That is what we were thinking.
I can’t understand why Marshall thought they could get away with 2 vertical bar struts (one on each side) with just a 50mm hole drilled in it for the main pin to take all the sideways stress.
It seems absolutely daft that they didn’t add a bush like we have now done.
And where we have positioned the grease nipple is a hell of a lot better than have to lay on your back on the floor to get to them.
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The idea is that we grease these outer nipples regularly which thanks to the sleeve, will actually push grease to both the outer and inner of the walking axle bushes. The nipples of the sleeves can be grease occasionally (with the buck tipped up and propped) to make sure the inner walking axle bushes which take far less stress are greased too. In fact the only place for the grease to escape (leak) is beyond the inner bush, thanks to the sleeve.


I have to add that I am one of the luckiest bar-stewards in the world. I am a one man band on this farm. The farm rents a building out a wonderful family of father and 2 sons, who are blacksmiths called Jim Sked and Sons. Jim has retired now but still comes in each morning. Officially, The company has now changed its name to Jim Sked Sons (being Andrew and Malcom). It is the youngest son Malcom, who helped me (which is why i say “we”) to do all this fabrication.
It is just wonderful to have them and all their fabrication kit on the farm! They are absolutely brilliant.

I sometimes wonder that if I hadn’t been a farmer, maybe I would have been an engineer.
 
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glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Thank you. That is what we were thinking.
I can’t understand why Marshall thought they could get away with 2 vertical bar struts (one on each side) with just a 50mm hole drilled in it for the main pin to take all the sideways stress.
It seems absolutely daft that they didn’t add a bush like we have now done.
And where we have positioned the grease nipple is a hell of a lot better than have to lay on your back on the floor to get to them.
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The idea is that we grease these outer nipples regularly which thanks to the sleeve, will actually push grease to both the outer and inner of the walking axle bushes. The nipples of the sleeves can be grease occasionally (with the buck tipped up and propped) to make sure the inner walking axle bushes which take far less stress are greased too. In fact the only place for the grease to escape (leak) is beyond the inner bush, thanks to the sleeve.


I have to add that I am one of the luckiest bar-stewards in the world. I am a one man band on this farm. The farm rents a building out a wonderful family of father and 2 sons, who are blacksmiths called Jim Sked and Sons. Jim has retired now but still comes in each morning. Officially, The company has now changed its name to Jim Sked Sons (being Andrew and Malcom). It is the youngest son Malcom, who helped me (which is why i say “we”) to do all this fabrication.
It is just wonderful to have them and all their fabrication kit on the farm! They are absolutely brilliant.

I sometimes wonder that if I hadn’t been a farmer, maybe I would have been an engineer.
Marshall are the kings of cutting corners, masters of spoiling the ship for a hapenny of tar.
I have a good marshall 14 tonner, after i replaced the rams and axles
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
So here goes on the Marshall trailer Hydraulic tailgate conversion.
First I got 2 unloading auger rams from 2 scrapped TX/TF combines.
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Then I worked out the geometry using algebra on a drawing to work out where the pivot points need to be.
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This trailer will have to have its hydraulic tailgate made removable for conversion into the Beater/ Guns trailer during the shooting season. Therefore to help relocate it, I don’t want to lose the original hinging jaws.
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They will get in the way when being used for muck, by jamming up with muck and straw. So once the tailgate is refitted. These locating jaws are removed and stored on the front ladder.
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We welded a 4” x 4” angle iron to the tailgate and at the same time checked the geometry as the where the ram pivot points would be.
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Happy with that we then welded a 40 by 80mm beam from the angle iron to the pivot point.
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Then came fitting the ram to the beam.
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Now we can work out exactly where the ram bottom pivot needs to go Fortunately this coincides with a strengthening strut. We use a Magtron drill to drill holes 20 mm in diameter.
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Then build up strong supports as this is where the rams are going to push from. We also fit an angled strut for greater strength.
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We are going to continue to use the original tailgate lock on this trailer when it sits full of grain for long periods, without risking the rams creeping open. We therefore had to cut out and modify the 4 x 4 angle iron to accommodate this.
Next job was plumbing in the hydraulics. So a trip to Tim Ingles in Moreton for new pipe work and to test it all works as should be.
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Paint tomorrow!
 
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Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Some great work here guys, just had to check I hadn’t strayed onto an engineering page
I hope I’m getting away with the fact that most of the materials are scrap, off cuts or 2nd hand.
And it is a creation, which took about a day and a half to fix.
Hopefully not too much of a bodge, but certainly a hell of a lot cheaper than swapping the trailer for a `factory made hydraulic tailgate version. Especially as this trailer is 27 years old.

What’s more, I actually enjoy designing and building things like this more than I will using it.
I get a real sense of achievement, especially when there isn’t much else I could be doing today, till it dries out some more.
 

bravheart

Member
Location
scottish borders
I hope I’m getting away with the fact that most of the materials are scrap, off cuts or 2nd hand.
And it is a creation, which took about a day and a half to fix.
Hopefully not too much of a bodge, but certainly a hell of a lot cheaper than swapping the trailer for a `factory made hydraulic tailgate version. Especially as this trailer is 27 years old.

What’s more, I actually enjoy designing and building things like this more than I will using it.
I get a real sense of achievement, especially when there isn’t much else I could be doing today, till it dries out some more.
???
That maybe but you need to consider the health of others, a tidy workshop and no baler twine to be seen @exmoor dave will have a nosebleed if he reads this:D
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
???
That maybe but you need to consider the health of others, a tidy workshop and no baler twine to be seen @exmoor dave will have a nosebleed if he reads this:D
Hopefully @exmoor dave and the likes will notice that the rest of the workshop isn’t that tidy to save him the expense of an Aldi loo role to wipe his nose with.
Not much baler twine here as those that I sell the hay to are all too mean to let me have any of the strings back!
I actually have to resort to buying cable ties!
 

Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
Hopefully @exmoor dave and the likes will notice that the rest of the workshop isn’t that tidy to save him the expense of an Aldi loo role to wipe his nose with.
Not much baler twine here as those that I sell the hay to are all too mean to let me have any of the strings back!
I actually have to resort to buying cable ties!
How much bale cord do you want? :(

My latest bodge.
MF ebay rims that I got sick of seeing listed, plus Ford wheel centres.
Hey presto, wide wheel rims to put another set of 600 tyres onto a 40 year old tractor for rolling.
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(paint next after I find some bolts)
 

bravheart

Member
Location
scottish borders
So here goes on the Marshall trailer Hydraulic tailgate conversion.
First I got 2 unloading auger rams from 2 scrapped TX/TF combines.
View attachment 861680
Then I worked out the geometry using algebra on a drawing to work out where the pivot points need to be.
View attachment 861669
This trailer will have to have its hydraulic tailgate made removable for conversion into the Beater/ Guns trailer during the shooting season. Therefore to help relocate it, I don’t want to lose the original hinging jaws.View attachment 861670
They will get in the way when being used for muck, by jamming up with muck and straw. So once the tailgate is refitted. These locating jaws are removed and stored on the front ladder.
View attachment 861671
We welded a 4” x 4” angle iron to the tailgate and at the same time checked the geometry as the where the ram pivot points would be.
View attachment 861672
Happy with that we then welded a 40 by 80mm beam from the angle iron to the pivot point.
View attachment 861674
Then came fitting the ram to the beam.
View attachment 861675
Now we can work out exactly where the ram bottom pivot needs to go Fortunately this coincides with a strengthening strut. We use a Magtron drill to drill holes 20 mm in diameter.
View attachment 861676
Then build up strong supports as this is where the rams are going to push from. We also fit an angled strut for greater strength.
View attachment 861677
We are going to continue to use the original tailgate lock on this trailer when it sits full of grain for long periods, without risking the rams creeping open. We therefore had to cut out and modify the 4 x 4 angle iron to accommodate this.
Next job was plumbing in the hydraulics. So a trip to Tim Ingles in Moreton for new pipe work and to test it all works as should be.
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Paint tomorrow!
Great work @Two Tone might even have to copy it someday only thing i would say is careful with the original handles, they will get bent reversing into a heap of fym:(
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Great work @Two Tone might even have to copy it someday only thing i would say is careful with the original handles, they will get bent reversing into a heap of fym:(
Yes well spotted. That happened when we used to use this trailer without a tailboard for muck. I’m considering cutting the lever off bar the last 3” and threading the end so that we can screw the extensions back on again when we need them for grain.
 

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