Ram missing from market

[penntor]

Bought a ram in Tavistock Market on tuesday 9th October, full mouth suffolk, tag no. UK36539202119. Arranged for transport for it and some ewes I did not sell. When lorry arrived at farm no suffolk ram. Went back to market no ram. I am hoping some one has taken it by mistake. Auctioneers are making enquires and I have informed ARAMS as it is not on my holding, have also put the word around. Not sure what else I can do.

 

[dannewhouse]

markets problem as they didn't check the loading docs properly?
if they can prove they were loaded onto correct lorry (CCTV?) then it could be the haulier?

I would think its deliberate, accident is loading the wrong ram, not loading 1 you didn't buy!

 

[penntor]

Not the haulier, local farming family, use them all the time. The ram was in a pen with a younger suffolk, I also put a BFL ram in the pen which I had bought, so 3 rams were in the pen when I left, 2 of mine and one other from the same vendor.

 

[dannewhouse]

market then, normally marts have good CCTV? if not its their problem for not checking loading paperwork?

 

[Purli R]

Market is liable,however someone has loaded it

 

[egbert]

No help to you, but I'd have thought 'at the fall of the hammer' applies.
Tavi have previously checked paperwork of rams leaving that particular bun fight, but less so lately

 

[cattleman123]

No help to you, but I'd have thought 'at the fall of the hammer' applies.
Tavi have previously checked paperwork of rams leaving that particular bun fight, but less so lately

One just trusts farmers to be honest....Load at Sedgemoor...etc etc and never been checked.. and lets be honest 99.9 % are

 

[egbert]

One just trusts farmers to be honest....Load at Sedgemoor...etc etc and never been checked.. and lets be honest 99.9 % are

It would be nice to think so -although experience suggests a slightly lower percentage, or possibly 'are honest 99% of the time'!
Let's hope it was an honest cock up, and is resolved smartly.

 

[gone up the hill]

Buyers responsibility at the fall of the hammer im afraid.

 

[Willie adie]

you should go to Lairg the loading of tups there is a free for all.

i once had the unenviable record of loading three tups wrong in the space of 30 mins at Thainstone one time.
i was called several names none of them civil.

 

[AftonShepherd]

Cheviot tups at Lockerbie have their numbers on their backs checked at the loading bank. Almost didn't let me out this year as 68 had been written from the opposite side and I didn't have 89 on my pass. Fortunately tag number is also on the pass.

 

[farmerm]

Someone took a pen of nice Texal cross ewe lambs I bough from a sale last year whilst I was taking my first trailer load home, left me with a poorer pen of lynn crosses

 

[cattleman123]

Someone took a pen of nice Texal cross ewe lambs I bough from a sale last year whilst I was taking my first trailer load home, left me with a poorer pen of lynn crosses

The cheeky beggers

 

[Willie adie]

Cheviot tups at Lockerbie have their numbers on their backs checked at the loading bank. Almost didn't let me out this year as 68 had been written from the opposite side and I didn't have 89 on my pass. Fortunately tag number is also on the pass.

the same 68 and 89 mistake happened at Lairg this year

 

[dannewhouse]

Someone took a pen of nice Texal cross ewe lambs I bough from a sale last year whilst I was taking my first trailer load home, left me with a poorer pen of lynn crosses

did you take the poorer animals?
you could have refused to load them as they wouldn't match your paperwork?
then its theft? report to police?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Someone took a pen of nice Texal cross ewe lambs I bough from a sale last year whilst I was taking my first trailer load home, left me with a poorer pen of lynn crosses

I wouldn’t of taken them, that’s rotten

 

[Longlowdog]

As we know from the number of rustling cases every year there are plenty of scum around even in our walk of life and often from folk we'd always regarded as nice folk till they are found out. Society in the west seems to accept and tolerate theft as a fact of life. The eastern lack of tolerance and innate honesty it creates is much more admirable. A Japanese tv programme 'lost' 50 wallets with sums ranging from £100 to £1000 and all were returned within the day untouched. Theft be it a school bully nicking your Mars bar to breaking into your house is a very personal violation of your space and hugely emotionally distressing. Why we tolerate it baffles me. And don't get me started on bankers......

 

[Dry Rot]

Surely, if the mart has people checking paperwork before permitting loading, they have assumed responsibility and will be liable?

 

[primmiemoo]

Dad and his brothers would mark all stock they bought as soon as possible after hammer or stick brought down. They each used a different pattern.

This thread has made me think about how complacent I've been in comparison.
I'm very surprised that the ram was allowed off site so easily, though. If they're catalogued in, they should be double checked out.

Hope it's tracked down soon, and whoever's had it has a thorough questioning.

 

[penntor]

Market has said it will stand the loss if it does not turn up. Even although they issue pass out paperwork I have never been checked loading at Tavistock , also not aware of any CCTV there.
The ram I bought was an older ram, my view being that if he had lived that long he should go on for a while and not melt/fade away like some young rams you buy that have been stuffed full of cake. Also the vendor was local to me so similar ground. Now I have to spend more time going to another market to get another ram. It is not as simple as just getting the money back.