Ram to ewe ratio.

Toms820

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Cornwall
Evening, currently running 4 rams to 120 ewes split into 2 groups. is that enough? Ewes are mainly texel x and the rams are texel. Or should I run some more rams. Trying to close up our lambing so it’s not so drawn out.

Cheers Tom
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
Maybe use a teaser to tighten lambing up?

^this. Unless your rams can hardly get round, or are subfertile, two rams would easily cope with 120 ewes in their natural breeding season, without causing a prolonged lambing. If the ewes aren’t cycling (as many Texels won’t be in October ime) then they will only take the tup steadily. When I was tupping Texels in early October I found it was very steady unless they’d been kicked into gear with teasers.

I put ram lambs out at 1:60, older rams at 1:80+, and consider that playing on the safe side. I never have many left to conceive after a17 day cycle, with less than 5% lambing in the second cycle in most years.
 

Kiwi Pete

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+1 for teasers, in our case we couldn't be bothered with teasers so we just grazed all the paddocks adjacent to the lane prior to tupping and left the rams on the lane to talk to them through the netting.
Same idea but different execution, nothing like ram stench to get the girls thinking of ❤
 

Bury the Trash

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Evening, currently running 4 rams to 120 ewes split into 2 groups. is that enough? Ewes are mainly texel x and the rams are texel. Or should I run some more rams. Trying to close up our lambing so it’s not so drawn out.

Cheers Tom
yeah thats plenty . well more than enough .
there arent too fat are they ?
not too early though is it ? Texels arent an early breed Rams nor ewes
 
B
+1 for teasers, in our case we couldn't be bothered with teasers so we just grazed all the paddocks adjacent to the lane prior to tupping and left the rams on the lane to talk to them through the netting.
Same idea but different execution, nothing like ram stench to get the girls thinking of ❤
I do the same 👍 this year my oldest ram 'walk himself in to the ground' along the fence, lost heap of weight (don't think he was eating much at all) I used him for the repeaters. Last year I think 😕
 

gwi1890

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North wales
^this. Unless your rams can hardly get round, or are subfertile, two rams would easily cope with 120 ewes in their natural breeding season, without causing a prolonged lambing. If the ewes aren’t cycling (as many Texels won’t be in October ime) then they will only take the tup steadily. When I was tupping Texels in early October I found it was very steady unless they’d been kicked into gear with teasers.

I put ram lambs out at 1:60, older rams at 1:80+, and consider that playing on the safe side. I never have many left to conceive after a17 day cycle, with less than 5% lambing in the second cycle in most years.

straying off topic a bit, but when I was living i. Snowdonia farm was 1000ft above sea level my texels were not cycling naturally Until mid/early October, now Im on Anglesey 200ft above sea level better land some are cycling as early as late august, I send the tups out without a teasing mid sept and get a nice tight lambing , the flock moved here 6 years ago and they have been creeping forward in cycles every year, tups are active now which is something I didn’t have to worry about until September before and most would have been sold by then , now they are bloody beating the hell out of each other and there is well over 6 weeks to go until sales 😒
 

Anymulewilldo

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Cheshire
straying off topic a bit, but when I was living i. Snowdonia farm was 1000ft above sea level my texels were not cycling naturally Until mid/early October, now Im on Anglesey 200ft above sea level better land some are cycling as early as late august, I send the tups out without a teasing mid sept and get a nice tight lambing , the flock moved here 6 years ago and they have been creeping forward in cycles every year, tups are active now which is something I didn’t have to worry about until September before and most would have been sold by then , now they are bloody beating the hell out of each other and there is well over 6 weeks to go until sales 😒
Yep, just goes to prove that no matter what you do. Something is always there to stop you becoming a millionaire!
 

Anymulewilldo

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Cheshire
IME an escaped Welsh Mountain ram lamb can easily attend to 100 over a week!!!
Especially if the ewes are not yours!
A week?!?!?! The smaller and scrubbier the tup lamb the more the little b*****d serves per day! We shot the last one that got on us in the end. I'm not going to think about the welsh lambs we had on the mule ewe lambs! Luckily my beltex lads had been out 3 week so he only got a few. Selling 32kg fat lambs the following april was quite embarrassing. All easy lambing though! Every cloud and that! 😂
 
A week?!?!?! The smaller and scrubbier the tup lamb the more the little b*****d serves per day! We shot the last one that got on us in the end. I'm not going to think about the welsh lambs we had on the mule ewe lambs! Luckily my beltex lads had been out 3 week so he only got a few. Selling 32kg fat lambs the following april was quite embarrassing. All easy lambing though! Every cloud and that! 😂
You might be on to something. I know a couple of folk that use Shetland tups on their ewe hoggs. 'Shitlands' one of them called them. Said you'd come out in the morning and the fresh lambs would be buzzing about like little wasps!
 

Stewartry hill

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Livestock Farmer
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Galloway
You might be on to something. I know a couple of folk that use Shetland tups on their ewe hoggs. 'Shitlands' one of them called them. Said you'd come out in the morning and the fresh lambs would be buzzing about like little wasps!
I have a field running next door of Shetland x scotch mules looking very well getting temted to try one
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
You might be on to something. I know a couple of folk that use Shetland tups on their ewe hoggs. 'Shitlands' one of them called them. Said you'd come out in the morning and the fresh lambs would be buzzing about like little wasps!

You’d get lambs I suppose, but isn’t it better to get a lamb worth something, assuming you can find a breed that also doesn’t give lambing problems?
 

MF135

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Fife
Apologies for hyjacking the thread, I’ve some north country Cheviot gimmers here that I’ll be crossing with a blue. Do you think they’ll be cycling by October?
 

SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
+1 for teasers, in our case we couldn't be bothered with teasers so we just grazed all the paddocks adjacent to the lane prior to tupping and left the rams on the lane to talk to them through the netting.
Same idea but different execution, nothing like ram stench to get the girls thinking of ❤

I tried that once and it took the ram two whole days to lower the fence by butting one of the posts and jump in with the ewes.... :unsure:
 

unlacedgecko

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Fife
I ran 1:50 with tup lambs last year (with 1 2tooth at 1:100). 90% lambed first cycle. This year those tup lambs will be 2 tooths and will run at 1:100.
 

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