Random emails getting corrupted

Location
East Mids
Hoping someone has some suggestions as this is driving us up the wall and leading to some embarrassment.

Our email address is one via our farm web address, a standard .co.uk one. For a few years now we have had problems with some emails becoming corrupted and we have no idea why or how to stop it. This has become worse in the last year. We have McAffee installed and have had no virus issues and have done full scans. This is what happens. (concentrate carefully).

Someone perfectly legit sends us an email. This can be someone we deal with regularly and is not linked to any bulk emails, and it's not spam. Their new message (call it message 1) attaches to an older email from someone else that we received months or even years ago (call it message 2). Again this message 2 is usually a perfectly legit email that we received with no problems when it was first sent.

Message 1 arrives in our inbox (rarely into junk) as if it was message 2 - ie with the earlier date so we only find it by looking at all unread emails. It is only when we open that email and scroll down through it that we find firstly the original message 2, still intact, and then below that, evidence of message 1 - the new email. This is sometimes completely corrupted and is just a random stream of numbers and letters. Other times it is fully legible. Sometimes again it is a mixture of the two. Any attachments to message 1 are not accessible. So for example, today I realised we had not had our email copy of a fallen stock invoice so had to ask for it to be re-sent. Yesterday our automatic email from NML of our milk test was found as a corrupted message, and of course as the test itself is a separate .pdf we could not read it (We get it texted through as well so not a real problem).

Sometimes we might go into outlook and there are 10 emails coming in. 8 will arrive perfectly fine and 2 might get corrupted. Then we might go all day without any more problems.

Sometimes it seems to be particular 'old' messages (ie message 2's) that attract the new message 1's. For example an ADAS newsletter from 5th October might appear 4 times over the course of a week, with different corrupted messages (message 1's) each time. So unless I delete them it appears I have received 4 copies of the ADAS newsletter, received on 5th October. In fact there are 4 copies of the newsletter all with a corrupted add-on. I have tried making sure I delete all of these but it doesn't stop it happening again to that same 'attractant' email from ADAS (only an example).

As you can imagine, it is embarrassing when I get reminders saying 'you haven't replied to my email' when I never saw the original as well as needing to chase up supplier invoices that have gone out by DD and potentially losing out on important information.

Any suggestions please? The lady that built our website has none. Of course we can set up a gmail account but our email is on so many databases now it will take ages to transition - and it might not solve the problem!

The only other fact that it might be worse mentioning is that we have a very slow internet connection at times. I have very little IT knowledge but think it is much more likely linked to the file server than anything physically on my computer.
 
I perhaps missed something in your OP, it was quite err lengthy :D but instinctively I *think* you may have an issue with your email client (outlook etc)

It sounds like it is performing some (poor) translation of some “rich” content / graphic / emails with web content - rather than “plain text” which if they are getting garbled would suggest something else. There is also the possibility that Outlook’s own database (PST file) has become partially corrupted.

What version of Outlook are you running?

Is there only one machine which is accessing (sending/receiving) emails from the account?
 

wilber

Member
Location
wales
I read 3 paragraphs and got a head ache.

Screen shots are invaluable when trying to resolve computer issues across the internet.
 
What email client?

Ok just read again and see that you are using Outlook. I believe outlook data files can be corrupted and that there are some repair tools out there.

https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...-and-ost-25663bc3-11ec-4412-86c4-60458afc5253

Personally I'd just install Mozilla Thunderbird and try using that instead. If that works fine then it is clearly an Outlook issue and Thunderbird is excellent anyway.
 
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Location
East Mids
The reason it's a long post is it's a nightmare trying to explain. !!!

So.... as you can see in the first photo, I apparently had 2 emails from Game and Conservation Wildlife Trust on 05/01/18. Yes I did have one originally which was fine. This first photo shows the top GCWT open with their original message.
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But if I scroll down through that same open email, I then get to the first corrupted message, which is a newsletter I get from the Planning Portal. You can see the top bit of text is a bit weird but at the bottom it is making sense.
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Scroll down a bit further (same email) and this is what the Planning Portal email is supposed to look like (picture below).

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However, this particular email has morphed not once but twice. So below that again - same open email - is a newsletter from Learning Outside the Classroom. This came out on 12 September 2018.
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So when the newsletter from LOTC arrived on September 12th, it went into my inbox with the original GCWT header / topic and date as 5/01/18, so as my inbox is arranged in date order, I could easily have missed it. Not important in this case but many more important messages are doing the same thing. If I try to 'reply' to this, the reply is set to go to GCWT and all the other stuff disappears, if I try and forward it all the other stuff disappears.

Finally, you will see I have now clicked to open the second GCWT email, which is identical in content (from GCWT) to the first. However, scroll down and I have this.
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This is one of the gobbledegook ones and I have no way of knowing who it was from or what it is supposed to say.

In answer to other queries, I use Outlook in Microsoft Office 2003 and we only use one device, a laptop. It happens that the emails I have used as examples ARE bulk sender newsletter types, but we do get emails from one individual to us only getting corrupted.
 
Outlook 2003 is errrrr quite out of date!

I would say it’s choking on certain metadata in the original message which is causing the message to appear garbled.

Simple resolution: Upgrade to a current/supported version of Outlook. It will also be safer and more secure :)
 

wilber

Member
Location
wales
Might also be worth checking the web mail version of your email if you have it.

Log on to webmail and check those suspect emails and see if they are suffering from the same issue. This should narrow down the cause to an issue on the computer if all is well on webmail.
 

Sagecaster

New Member
Location
UK
Outlook 2003 will cause corrupted mail, rather than update to a new version of Outlook, try Mozzila Thunderbird which is free and very reliable.
 

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