Ransome plough

Cordiale

Member
Three point linkage, never catch on, ploughs should have three wheels and a drawbar.
I totally agree. In my opinion no plough sits in the ground or follows the ground better than a trailer plough. It seems that the world style boys agree, judging by the fact that they have a furrow wheel, and two wheels on the landside of the plough.
 

rick_vandal

Member
Location
Soft South
Longer lower link arms will reduce the lift capacity by definition and change the trapezoidal arrangement (in plan view). Other posts propose chopping the front furrow off a 3 to give more space and a better starting point for a fancy sliding headstock. Long, dark winter nights ahead...
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Longer lower link arms will reduce the lift capacity by definition and change the trapezoidal arrangement (in plan view). Other posts propose chopping the front furrow off a 3 to give more space and a better starting point for a fancy sliding headstock. Long, dark winter nights ahead...
:scratchhead::scratchhead:
 

madmatt

Member
Well here is an update on my project, i was going to spend half an hour this morning installing the new pillar drill then crack on with the plough 2hrs later i have decided to completely rehash the workshop lay out and will be lucky to be finished by sunday!
 

madmatt

Member
So a month down the line and managed to get some time on the plough today. Had to resort to the gas bottles and seriously heat up one of the ceoss shaft ends to get it off.

Have cut the 3rd furrow frame to length and tomorrow going to decide on leg positions i or outside the frame, also been looking through here for ideas on headstocks and totally confused as everyone has theirs in a slightly different position left to right on their plough so struggling to work out what's best i am going to use a piece of channel above the cross shaft and then might make the toplink assembly bolt to the channel so it can be moved left to right with trial an error 631798-06bb4e6899e36f8ac3b0a6f9eec0b0a3.jpg 180586-001a7fe2da72cb33b6674217d4cf7c1b.jpg 631798-06bb4e6899e36f8ac3b0a6f9eec0b0a3.jpg IMG-20181118-WA0002.jpg
 

madmatt

Member
Do you regret chopping off the 3rd furrow instead of the first? A sliding headstock keeps all 3 points in line.


Not yet no, what i have done is completely dismantled the plough, and used the third furrow frame to build the plough on, theory being its the narrower one so will allow more movement over the cross shaft. The only chopping i have done is cut the third furrow frame to length.

2nd reason for using the 3rd furrow frame i can always go back and use the other frame if needs be.
 

madmatt

Member
Should the top link position not be in the middle of the piece of channel section???

That was my thought yes as i would say it naturally wants to sit in the middle of the lower link pins.

But on some of the pictures i have looked at on here its hard to work out if some thing different has been done.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
Not yet no, what i have done is completely dismantled the plough, and used the third furrow frame to build the plough on, theory being its the narrower one so will allow more movement over the cross shaft. The only chopping i have done is cut the third furrow frame to length.

2nd reason for using the 3rd furrow frame i can always go back and use the other frame if needs be.
when I do mine, I don't cut anything off, in fact I add some to the left hand beam at the front, as it is to short
 

Howard150

Member
Location
Yorkshire
That was my thought yes as i would say it naturally wants to sit in the middle of the lower link pins.

But on some of the pictures i have looked at on here its hard to work out if some thing different has been done.

Put it on slots so you can have it where the top link runs true. David Browns have an offset top link anyway. A lot of us also run different wheel track settings side for side, again causing disparity.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
on mine the top link has a 2" offset to the ploughing, this has a 2 fold advantage, first off with the top link running offset this is proping the plough and pushing it towards the ploughing to keep pressure on the boards for firmness, and and as its under compression this holds the plough steady, secondary advantage is once the plough is lifted up the top link runs straight, so in turn this holds the plough towards unploughed land, so when you in at the end this holds the plough over to get the full furrow width on the front, many times I have seen them with it running inline, and have trouble getting in with right width on the front,
 

madmatt

Member
on mine the top link has a 2" offset to the ploughing, this has a 2 fold advantage, first off with the top link running offset this is proping the plough and pushing it towards the ploughing to keep pressure on the boards for firmness, and and as its under compression this holds the plough steady, secondary advantage is once the plough is lifted up the top link runs straight, so in turn this holds the plough towards unploughed land, so when you in at the end this holds the plough over to get the full furrow width on the front, many times I have seen them with it running inline, and have trouble getting in with right width on the front,


Thanks very much for the informative post i really appreciate it, being a bit of a wimp i have decided to bolt the brackets for the top link mounting on to the channel rather than weld them on. That means i can drill a series of holes so i can move the headstock over off centre. That way once i get ot ploughing i can see what position works best and eventually if i am convinced its in the right place i can weld them.
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Thanks very much for the informative post i really appreciate it, being a bit of a wimp i have decided to bolt the brackets for the top link mounting on to the channel rather than weld them on. That means i can drill a series of holes so i can move the headstock over off centre. That way once i get ot ploughing i can see what position works best and eventually if i am convinced its in the right place i can weld them.
Some form of clamp and slide would be better. You can bet on it now that any hole will be half a hole off!
 

madmatt

Member
Some form of clamp and slide would be better. You can bet on it now that any hole will be half a hole off!


I will just use a bolt half the diameter :) till i get ot back to the workshop lol. I can see your point but i don't want to over over complicate it
 
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Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Some form of clamp and slide would be better. You can bet on it now that any hole will be half a hole off!
Thinking about it, why not mount the headstock on a length of square or round solid bar, you can slide it to any position, and a set bolt would secure it.
 

rick_vandal

Member
Location
Soft South
The mouldboard stay issue is a smoke-screen if you go for turn-buckle adjusters. A sliding headstock with an in-board depth wheel is the obvious choice. The land is your datum point and the 3 point linkage is a constraint. Please borrow a trailer plough and have some fun.
 

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