Ransome TS59 Plough Points.

[Jimbolewis]

Hi All. I'm about to attend my 1st ploughing match next weekend with a Ransome TS59 with epic boards. I've checked it over this weekend and slackened/adjusted/greased the plough ready to play but my question is how are the points held in place and what do you guys use? Looks like one of mine is held in by something metal and I can't even make out what the 2nd fixing is. I'm reluctant to try and remove the points as I don't know how to re-fix it and hoping that I don't loose a point during the competition. Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[Oliveau]

AFAIK its little tapered metal pins, but we used to cut a nice hardwood twig from the hedge and use that,

 

[wuddy]

Hi All. I'm about to attend my 1st ploughing match next weekend with a Ransome TS59 with epic boards. I've checked it over this weekend and slackened/adjusted/greased the plough ready to play but my question is how are the points held in place and what do you guys use? Looks like one of mine is held in by something metal and I can't even make out what the 2nd fixing is. I'm reluctant to try and remove the points as I don't know how to re-fix it and hoping that I don't loose a point during the competition. Thanks for any suggestions.

I use 8mm x 40mm hardwood furniture dowels, 100 for about £6 off ebay

 

[Tonym]

Tapered metal pegs are best as with wood you lose the point if you reverse. I have also seen rawlings and screws used as well.

 

[wuddy]

Tapered metal pegs are best as with wood you lose the point if you reverse. I have also seen rawlings and screws used as well.

I’ve seen people use metal pegs and really struggled to get them out!! I haven’t lost a point in 24 years!!

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

I’ve seen people use metal pegs and really struggled to get them out!!

Put some grease on the pin before knocking it in, should never go in dry

 

[Bury the Trash]

from memory well it was a long time ago, a bit of ash or similar paired down to make pegs.

 

[Oliveau]

from memory well it was a long time ago, a bit of ash or similar paired down to make pegs.

Agreed, but as other posters have advised they are not very robust if you reverse with the plough in the ground. I’ve left a few YL shares buried in the Wiltshire Downs over the years!

 

[Bury the Trash]

btw They are not Points they are Shares

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

I'm not on epics, but similar set up on YL's. I've converted mine and use 8mm (i think?) tension pins for ease of taking off/on. Works really well.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I'm not on epics, but similar set up on YL's. I've converted mine and use 8mm (i think?) tension pins for ease of taking off/on. Works really well.

What do you mean by tension pins ? would that be roll pins ?

 

[wuddy]

btw They are not Points they are Shares

points and shares are two separate parts on epics

 

[Bury the Trash]

points and shares are two separate parts on epics

There are Shares on mine no points.

Share ,Wing , Shin and Mouldboard plus tailpiece.

No points.

Anyway Back to the op, from distant memory i think i ended up using 6 inch nails cut to length and hoping soil snugged them fit enough not to drop out .

Shall know more at the weekend as she's in for a 'restore', and i'll tap them off.

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

What do you mean by tension pins ? would that be roll pins ?

Yep, roll pins, spring pin, etc... all the same thing.

 

[Petetheploughman]

What do you put in between the share and the frog if the share is very loose fitting?

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

What do you put in between the share and the frog if the share is very loose fitting?

Used to use cornflake packets, then cut some thin plastic and made some shims…

 

[Bury the Trash]

points and shares are two separate parts on epics

Apologies @wuddy you are right and in the book ( I've just got copy of, the original book was lost some time ago ) RSJ themselves do refer to what we have as points and wings on ours anyway....., Dad always referred to them as shares i suppose that was because they are a good size with a good ' wing' on them themselves.
I wouldn't have a clue what epic mouldboards we have though as I didnt know there were 2 types, 41k and 39k ??.

I think I shall put the legs back to 10 inch instead 12 like they were originally.

Tbh I'm looking forward to getting the plough in good working order and having a go with it ,for the first time in over 40 +yrs .

 

[wuddy]

Apologies @wuddy you are right and in the book ( I've just got copy of, the original book was lost some time ago ) RSJ themselves do refer to what we have as points and wings on ours anyway....., Dad always referred to them as shares i suppose that was because they are a good size with a good ' wing' on them themselves.
I wouldn't have a clue what epic mouldboards we have though as I didnt know there were 2 types, 41k and 39k ??.

I think I shall put the legs back to 10 inch instead 12 like they were originally.

Tbh I'm looking forward to getting the plough in good working order and having a go with it ,for the first time in over 40 +yrs .

41’s are shallower than 39’s and are the better of the two for match work. I wore out a pair of 41’s that dad originally used and replaced them with idcp7. Definitely better at 10” for match work in the vintage class! Pop a picture up and I’ll can tell you what you have! Steel points and shares plough a lot nicer but are very hard to find now!

 

[tomlad]

I always think , but obviously can wrong that bolted on is a share and knock on , wooden peg is a point ??

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

I always think , but obviously can wrong that bolted on is a share and knock on , wooden peg is a point ??

Not sure, I always thought share is the collective term for the "bits" that are fixed on that wear. I kind of agree a "point" is more of a knock on or pinned on tip. On Epic bodies I'd probably call them points, because you have a point, a shin and a wing that make up the wearing items in front of the board...