Ransomes rsld land wheel shaft!

MrNoo

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arcobob

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Norfolk
They are laminated or certainly appear that way, one front edge sits high where the share is and has worn away a couple of areas and it looks laminated or it is where the depth of hardening stops. The board tails are square too. I believe they are very similar to the 165 but have a slower twist and are longer.
I was going by the way the letters appeared raised but that may be a trick of the light. They are definitely 163 or otherwise known as Kent boards because they were made in quite small numbers for that market into the early fifties.
 

Ley253

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Well, here it is, in all its glory! I have seen others on Motracs but cant remember any on straight beam ploughs.Thing is, it dates the plough much earlier than 1946. One other clue, a few years ago an ex land army girl was reunited with the tractor and plough she used during the war, she ploughed a few rounds with it.Tractor was a model N, plough was a no 3 motrac.
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arcobob

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Well, here it is, in all its glory! I have seen others on Motracs but cant remember any on straight beam ploughs.Thing is, it dates the plough much earlier than 1946. One other clue, a few years ago an ex land army girl was reunited with the tractor and plough she used during the war, she ploughed a few rounds with it.Tractor was a model N, plough was a no 3 motrac.View attachment 652236
Is she an old flame of yours Harry? The plough must have been a TS5 which originally came out with DM boards and non adjustable drawbar. and RSJ section frame. Perhaps the war effort threw up all sorts of anomalies like this that never entered the records. Very interesting.
 

arcobob

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Norfolk
I was going by the way the letters appeared raised but that may be a trick of the light. They are definitely 163 or otherwise known as Kent boards because they were made in quite small numbers for that market into the early fifties.
I am surprised that those boards are a big success on a short frame like a Robin.
 

Howard150

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Yorkshire
The first plough called a Motrac emerged in 1931 designated TS5 and was for export to Italy. The second one in 1936 was designated TS9 which was a four furrow self lift plough also for export. The next one, also a four furrow plough was the Motrac Major (TS26) with YLs for the home market and introduced in 1936. The TS43 which is the first two furrow Motrac that most people recognise with the winder on the rear wheel was introduced in 1946. So which of these designs fit in with the legends named on here? The RSLD in original form designated TS12 was introduced in 1933 with YL bodies.
The number designations are constructed from T=tractor, S= self lift and the numbers follow in date sequence until the TS1013 which was a rehash of a previous model(TS54). RSLD/M means Ransomes self lift double/multiple. So yes, the Motrac name preceded RSLD/M but not in a form that would be used by anyone that we have heard of in a ploughing match in the fifties. Both plough designs were not of the same age when comparing like with like, 1933 (RSLD) as opposed to 1946(TS43 Motrac)

Check your facts Bob. The TS designation is usually tractor share - TS 59. TS 86 and on. Anthony Clares book is quite clear. Ransomes and their tractor share ploughs.
 
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arcobob

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Check your facts Bob. The TS designation is usually tractor share - TS 59. TS 86 and on. Anthony clares bookis quite clear. Ransomes and their tractor share ploughs.
You are quite correct as I did point this out in a post a while back. Senior moment I am afraid, it only means self lift in the RSLD name.
 

arcobob

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I just read an interesting bit in Clare's book about wartime production There was a massive shortage of steel and ploughs were put together using components left over from much earlier productions so anything was possible. By the end of the war 30,00 Motracs had been made.
 

Ley253

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Bath
They are laminated or certainly appear that way, one front edge sits high where the share is and has worn away a couple of areas and it looks laminated or it is where the depth of hardening stops. The board tails are square too. I believe they are very similar to the 165 but have a slower twist and are longer.
kent boards are similar to rnd but with square ends. You could buy repair panels to weld onto the end, as the kent land wore the board tails rapidly
 

MrNoo

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kent boards are similar to rnd but with square ends. You could buy repair panels to weld onto the end, as the kent land wore the board tails rapidly
It's one share end, not the tail, looks to have been run for some time proud of the share, hence the wear. I have a spare board that came with the plough so will clean that one up to use. But will stick it in the ground and see how it goes first.
 

Ley253

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Bath
I just read an interesting bit in Clare's book about wartime production There was a massive shortage of steel and ploughs were put together using components left over from much earlier productions so anything was possible. By the end of the war 30,00 Motracs had been made.
Err, in your earlier post, you state that the Motrac was not produced till 1946.
The plough with those boards on, is a standard no 3.It is believed to be completely original, having been purchased, then left almost unused for many years, in the back of a barn, and latterly a hedge! The present owner bought it years ago, but cant remember when, but it came from the dispersal sale of the farm on which it originally worked. Nothing ever left that farm, worn out kit was "stored", in case it would "come in handy".
 

Ley253

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Bath
It's one share end, not the tail, looks to have been run for some time proud of the share, hence the wear. I have a spare board that came with the plough so will clean that one up to use. But will stick it in the ground and see how it goes first.
Where you are, should that not be "Stick it to the ground!" Mind you, even that may be preferable to sitting at home, watching the rain!
 

Ley253

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Bath
Where you are, should that not be "Stick it to the ground!" Mind you, even that may be preferable to sitting at home, watching the rain!
Seriously, that plough should go very well indeed, one thing though do not fit that spare board, however much cleaning you do, it will have a different surface finish to the other one, and will show up as pairing. Much better to weld up the wear and dress back, much smaller area.
 

Kenham

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Someone probably used it without having the proper shares which should be 44K's, they stand up a bit higher at the back end as they use a thicker spacer at the front of the board. I have a brand new Kent board in the shed if anyone wants it, good boards on heavy clay which we have a lot of here in Kent
 

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