Ransomes ts90

[wilt434]

Been modifying a plough of mine for the last couple of weeks and just thought that some of you on here might like to see it.

 

[Roy Stokes]

Very nice Will !

 

[Cordiale]

I can see you are a talented engineer, it looks impressive.
Out of interest, have you built it because you want the satisfaction of building and using your own plough, or are you after more point to point clearance? Also they look like TCNs will you be able to use it in the appropriate class?
I can also see from your tractor that the original fuel tank is missing have you modified that so you can wind the landslide levelling box, and while L am inquisitive mode your top link looks a bit more involved than most l've seen is it better th a the old KV ones?
Happy New Year everybody.

 

[John 1594]

Have you slotted the mounting boss for the depth winder handle then? It looks as if its welded solid, wont it bind up when you adjust the depth and the angle of the handle changes in relation to the depth wheel arm?

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Also they look like TCNs will you be able to use it in the appropriate class?

dont see why not, both would be classic

I can also see from your tractor that the original fuel tank is missing

that model would not of had the fuel tank behind the seat

Have you slotted the mounting boss for the depth winder handle then?

I was thinking the same

 

[Cordiale]

dont see why not, both would be classic


that model would not of had the fuel tank behind the seat


I was thinking the same

 

[Cordiale]

Out of interest what model tractor is it?
As regards the plough guess I have forgotten how long ago the ts90s came out!

 

[Howard150]

Have you slotted the mounting boss for the depth winder handle then? It looks as if its welded solid, wont it bind up when you adjust the depth and the angle of the handle changes in relation to the depth wheel arm?

I can see a trunnion in there under the angle bracket! It will be fine apart from maybe needing to shorten the bracket.

You might be better to make the wheel scraper a bit smaller and move it back about 80 degrees radially on the wheel. Situated where it is it will gather debris and in some ground such as the woldish stuff we have here with small flints, it will stop the wheel turning. The same can be said for wet heavy sticky clay. Moving it back will allow scrapings to drop off onto the ground.

Good job Will. Just check out a 97 Bonning headstock (Jim Cochrane just posted one on Facebook Ford and Fordson implements) as it will give you the flexibility you need when moving the plough across.

 

[wilt434]

I can see you are a talented engineer, it looks impressive.
Out of interest, have you built it because you want the satisfaction of building and using your own plough, or are you after more point to point clearance? Also they look like TCNs will you be able to use it in the appropriate class?
I can also see from your tractor that the original fuel tank is missing have you modified that so you can wind the landslide levelling box, and while L am inquisitive mode your top link looks a bit more involved than most l've seen is it better th a the old KV ones?
Happy New Year everybody.

I built it as I wanted to build my own, I currently plough with a TS86. The tractor is a 374 and just sits in the classic class.

 

[wilt434]

I can see a trunnion in there under the angle bracket! It will be fine apart from maybe needing to shorten the bracket.

You might be better to make the wheel scraper a bit smaller and move it back about 80 degrees radially on the wheel. Situated where it is it will gather debris and in some ground such as the woldish stuff we have here with small flints, it will stop the wheel turning. The same can be said for wet heavy sticky clay. Moving it back will allow scrapings to drop off onto the ground.

Good job Will. Just check out a 97 Bonning headstock (Jim Cochrane just posted one on Facebook Ford and Fordson implements) as it will give you the flexibility you need when moving the plough across.

Will do Dave, thank you for the advice.

 

[Ley253]

Forget the classic class Will, you are wasted there, the highest is the european.Get going in world style, sooner you do, sooner you could be picking up a gold medal at the world match!

 

[gavts86rwm]

Deep pockets are needed in the world style so unless you keep up with the current mods you might aswell do a class u can afford classic is one of the strongest classes out there keep it up will

 

[Ley253]

Cant agree re pockets! People with your skills can make most of the special bits, and a Tafe, Same or Universal 4x4 tractor would not be that expensive. Roy mentioned the price which would interest him in parting with his classic plough, I could have bought two world style kvs from Peakirk, and still had change!
If you add the fact that Will already has a competitive world style plough, then the cost of competition would be broadly the same.

 

[gavts86rwm]

But it don't stop there because with how world style is at this current stage there's always changes which you've got to keep up with

 

[Howard150]

Be very very careful on this one.

One of the greatest talents since I started ploughing was more or less sidelined by the establishment. He won the young farmers at the national when it was in Hereford. He was given no help whatsoever and was actually told by the establishment not to listen to anybody apart from the 3 key figures in the establishment. Difficult when they are actively avoiding you.

World style plough now sold to Geoff Fretwell.

In a scenario where talent and finance were freely available the only thing holding him back had to be face not fitting, or the fact that certain key figures at the time were more concerned about their own success. Euan Griffifths & Stuart Vickers (both superb young talent) got a lot of tuition from one of the said 3 key figures, which also reinforces the point about face not fitting.

Might be a different scenario for you in Wales.

No loss by being in the classic class even if you do change your mind later Will. The skills you assimilate now will all carry forward and you don't need a lorry to get there! Anyway you are doing pretty well already. Keep it up

Just a small point but there are a number of good world stylers have come into the classic class. So far only a couple of them have had a lot of success, which demonstrates the fact that skill levels are already high in the classic class. One would have thought that ploughmen taking a step down into the scruffy classes from the elite should surely be unbeatable?

 

[Timo@hattonfarms]

I wondered why Nick packed it in.......

 

[arcobob]

Politics have driven ploughing down hill faster than a runaway train. There are now no world style or reversible matches in Norfolk and practically no serious competition for these disciplines throughout East Anglia.
Changing the subject only very slightly, the book that Harry keeps referring to called Ploughman's Progress by Alfred Hall makes a very interesting read. It charts the development of match ploughing both here and abroad from post war to the early nineties, the formation and financial failure of the British Ploughing Association in 1972. The resulting formation of the Society of Ploughmen and the list of founding directors throws up some interesting points. The Chuckle brothers and their father scarcely get a mention though the brothers were elected as joint secretaries. How did they engineer themselves into the position of supreme power?
Is history about to repeat itself ?

 

[Howard150]

How did they engineer themselves into the position of supreme power?
Is history about to repeat itself ?

Think you might well be talking in the wrong tense now Bob!

 

[Roy Stokes]

Forget the classic class Will, you are wasted there, the highest is the european.Get going in world style, sooner you do, sooner you could be picking up a gold medal at the world match!

Just a small point but there are a number of good world stylers have come into the classic class. So far only a couple of them have had a lot of success, which demonstrates the fact that skill levels are already high in the classic class. One would have thought that ploughmen taking a step down into the scruffy classes from the elite should surely be unbeatable?

I would say that given a level playing field for all competitors that it is a lot harder to reach and represent England at the Europeans in the classic class than it is to get to represent England at world level in world style ploughing, however the reverse applies when it comes to actually competing in the above competitions, it would be a lot harder to win the World style ploughing at world level than win the European in classic ploughing.
However with Will being Welsh the path to either could be a bit easier, not due to lack of skills in Wales just less competitors in either class

 

[wilt434]