Rappa Race weigh

[iLivestock]

@Boydvalley - Happy to try and help.

In our experience, we come across a 1 bar system when a manufacturer has decided to focus on mobility of the system and integration into an existing system. Most of the time a 2 bar system is a standalone Weigh crate or something fixed in position, you can get brackets made up to move 2 bar systems about.

The reason we show all our weights down to 0.1KG is we wanted to keep our display options nice and simple. You can set some Tru-Test to weigh heads to focus down to 0.1KG if required. However, as default, they tend to go with the roundup or round down to 0.5KG as it covers the level of accuracy difference on the 1 bar system. The same would apply to us but we just don't round the numbers.

The more "Data Points" we have the more accurate we can be, so 2 bars are better than 1 when talking about complete accuracy. However, there is always a trade-off when it comes down to the flexibility of the complete system.

Hope that all makes some sense.

Ewen

 

[Tim W]

@Boydvalley - Happy to try and help.

In our experience, we come across a 1 bar system when a manufacturer has decided to focus on mobility of the system and integration into an existing system. Most of the time a 2 bar system is a standalone Weigh crate or something fixed in position, you can get brackets made up to move 2 bar systems about.



The more "Data Points" we have the more accurate we can be, so 2 bars are better than 1 when talking about complete accuracy. However, there is always a trade-off when it comes down to the flexibility of the complete system.

I don't think there needs to be a ''trade off'' with a mobile system
My system is integrated into a mobile handling system , has 2 bars and is pretty accurate --it has been hauled around cross country for at least 12 years and works fine
The load bars i use are also a fraction of the price that truetest( or similar) want to charge you

 

[iLivestock]

I don't think there needs to be a ''trade off'' with a mobile system
My system is integrated into a mobile handling system , has 2 bars and is pretty accurate --it has been hauled around cross country for at least 12 years and works fine
The load bars i use are also a fraction of the price that truetest( or similar) want to charge you

When you get a chance could you PM us the details of your system? Especially keen to hear more about your load bars.

Ewen

 

[Keepers]

Bit late to the thread… thanks for the tag

after always relying on seperate heavy weigh crates at previous farms I thought an integrated weigh crate sounded a fantastic idea.
I hated having to try and lug the crates around, having to go back for them etc m

Im really not sure how many lambs weighed an hour… I’ll set a timer going next time I weigh this week, guess it may differ depending on if folk use a helper to keep the race full or not, I’m always stopping to let the next forcing pen in etc

it’s not really suitable for ewes in my opinion, some of my bigger ewes do have to squeeze in and they are still a medium breed even if fat

you do have to watch the lambs though, don’t let them lean on the back gate, I havnt had much/any with them standing on the sides though
Once you get the knack you can draft pretty quick

I’d say even with the downsides, the upsides of being so convenient for me far outweigh the bad points

I’ll time weighing lambs and try prop my phone somewhere to take a video of it this week

 

[Boydvalley]

I was late for market last week so I know it took me 1hr 5mins to set up get in weigh and sort 130 lambs on my own plus 15/20mins to pack up when I got back. That wasn’t recording weights because a ewe walked off with my psion with the wand wrapped around her neck and ripped the wire out. Add 10 mins if you have some sort of auto tag reader.

one thing that’s not mentioned is the height of the race plus weigh cell means they are at nice height to work and the crate has good access for grading (If your right handed)

 

[Bluesman]

I have a Rappa system with race grip (excellent piece of kit) and am awaiting a weigh crate from Border Software. It only weighs 65 kgs and am planning on fitting it on the back of the Rappa with a similar (hand made) bracket like the Prattley. We have sheep in paddocks spread over 10 mile area so movable weighing and handling is essential.

 

[beefsheeparable]

Anyone considered adapting the baseplate of the rappa raceweigh to take two loadbars?

 

[Al R]

I have a Rappa system with race grip (excellent piece of kit) and am awaiting a weigh crate from Border Software. It only weighs 65 kgs and am planning on fitting it on the back of the Rappa with a similar (hand made) bracket like the Prattley. We have sheep in paddocks spread over 10 mile area so movable weighing and handling is essential.

Top or bottom weighcell? I have a top and it’s incredible to use BUT it is big and although is only 65-70kg it’s to big to lift by yourself and I’ll lift 70kg ewes onto the back of the quad. I need to make a frame but meanwhile drag it into a trailer which is difficult enough as it is and need to do 2 trips

 

[Bluesman]

Top or bottom weighcell? I have a top and it’s incredible to use BUT it is big and although is only 65-70kg it’s to big to lift by yourself and I’ll lift 70kg ewes onto the back of the quad. I need to make a frame but meanwhile drag it into a trailer which is difficult enough as it is and need to do 2 trips

Top weighcell. The idea is to fit it on the back of the rappa when it is on the ground then winch the whole system up to transport. At last that is the idea.

 

[Boydvalley]

Used to use a cheap set of sack trucks to move the gripper once it was on the ground

 

[Boydvalley]

Haven’t done it for ages but weighed and recorded lambs straight on to the trailer yesterday 45mins to market.
47.91kg av at home, 46.48kg at market over 42 lambs
So over weighed by 1.5 kg
Not that sure what it proves other than an accuracy Of 0.5kg on 10lambs over a weight bridge is always going to be better than individual weighing. Funny how farm scales always over weigh though.

 

[Al R]

Haven’t done it for ages but weighed and recorded lambs straight on to the trailer yesterday 45mins to market.
47.91kg av at home, 46.48kg at market over 42 lambs
So over weighed by 1.5 kg
Not that sure what it proves other than an accuracy Of 0.5kg on 10lambs over a weight bridge is always going to be better than individual weighing. Funny how farm scales always over weigh though.

Had they been in 12 hours before in a shed to empty out?

 

[Boydvalley]

Had they been in 12 hours before in a shed to empty out?

No but there wasn’t 60kg in the trailer. I take your point though. Buyers never believe you put them in the shed down here.

 

[irish farmer22]

hi,
i’m currently thinking about buying a raceweigh,… is there any more feedback now that people have been using a while? we mainly finish store lambs off catch crop and stubble turnips so land is very spread out and involves a lot off travelling…

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

We have a Rappa Raceweigh and now I have got used to it I find it is far easier than dragging around the Pharmweigh which is a heavy piece of kit, but very accurate and fast.
It is true that there is a bit of inaccuracy from the single load bar but when you have weighed several hundred and put your hand on their backs you know within a kg if it is right.
Can easily do 400 an hour with two of you or one with a good dog!

 

[irish farmer22]

We have a Rappa Raceweigh and now I have got used to it I find it is far easier than dragging around the Pharmweigh which is a heavy piece of kit, but very accurate and fast.
It is true that there is a bit of inaccuracy from the single load bar but when you have weighed several hundred and put your hand on their backs you know within a kg if it is right.
Can easily do 400 an hour with two of you or one with a good dog!

thanks,
i was weary as i’ve been noticing a lot for resale the last while.

 

[Bluesman]

hi,
i’m currently thinking about buying a raceweigh,… is there any more feedback now that people have been using a while? we mainly finish store lambs off catch crop and stubble turnips so land is very spread out and involves a lot off travelling…

I have a Rappa system with squeeze grip and a Farmit3000 weigh crate. We have a carry frame that fits between the race and the tow frame. We attach the Rappa to the vehicle then slide on the weigh crate.

 

[Al R]

I have a Rappa system with squeeze grip and a Farmit3000 weigh crate. We have a carry frame that fits between the race and the tow frame. We attach the Rappa to the vehicle then slide on the weigh crate.

Any pictures? Infront of the red box then? Must be close to vehicle when turning?

 

[Bury the Trash]

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We have a Rappa Raceweigh and now I have got used to it I find it is far easier than dragging around the Pharmweigh which is a heavy piece of kit, but very accurate and fast.
It is true that there is a bit of inaccuracy from the single load bar but when you have weighed several hundred and put your hand on their backs you know within a kg if it is right.
Can easily do 400 an hour with two of you or one with a good dog!

I cant see the point of weighing them if its not accurate ?
all that money spent and its not fit for purpose

 

[Bluesman]

Any pictures? Infront of the red box then? Must be close to vehicle when turning?