Rate my tmr mix

[beaconsboy]

Ok. Been on the same old mix for ages. All that changed is we dropped some silage out as we have run out. Cattle are doing ok. Bulls are growing slow.
In 1 mix goes
3000kg of crimp cereals
3000kg maize silage
1000kg of biscuit meal
200 kg of soya
Bag of minerals . Lime stone flower. 15 kg of yeast.
We don't weigh nothing . Please don't say we should. I'd love to but there ant time and the bulls are grumpy as it is. They have access to salt lick and straw. Is there some tweeks we can make. David handy advices us. But just wandering what's others think cheers

 

[Plain steer]

Looks good what’s your dawg?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

1 bag of minerals in over 7 ton of mix...

 

[Norfolk Hill Farmer]

Seems a good mix, plenty of power with presumably the right amount of protein

Could you add a little straw in the mix ?

 

[Sheep92]

1 bag of minerals in over 7 ton of mix...

Would you not be putting a bag to 1 or 2 tin of mix?

 

[beaconsboy]

Well the knives have worn out. I know on the to do list. Don't know the weight gain sorry. Will have to get some scales set . More minerals. .....

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Would you not be putting a bag to 1 or 2 tin of mix?

I put a bag per ton in

 

[mo!]

I put a bag per ton in

I don't put any in. Steers not bulls and they do get some grass silage.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I don't put any in. Steers not bulls and they do get some grass silage.

You never use any minerals?!

 

[brigadoon]

Looks good what’s your dawg?

Almost certainly a collie

I've got my coat......

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Way low in protein. Nearly 3 tonnes of DM in your energy ingredients, maize silage being a very low protein source. If they are 400kg plus I would up the soya to 300kg but if the cattle are smaller than that 400kg. As for the minerals it depends on the recommended rate on the bag but if they are a standard bag to the tonne inclusion of dry feed put three bags in. I would drop the level of crimp to keep the total tonnage the same. Growing bulls in particular need protein and they will be a lot quieter if your having aggression problems believe me I’ve been there

 

[le bon paysan]

Add a protein source and aim at 16% to finish bulls, 18 to 20% to grow. I'm sure someone can put up a list of feed values, but yours looks a bit low.

 

[mo!]

You never use any minerals?!

Nope. We've done trials in the past and seen no benefit. Blood tests showed no deficiencies.

 

[beaconsboy]

I thought the protein might be a bit low. Can anyone recommend a cheap type. We were on liquid feed. How about traffic gold. Something like that.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Soya is the cheapest thing you can buy atm. Best protein for bulls as well keeps them quiet

 

[HarryB97]

Looks like a powerful ration but a bit more protein and fibre wouldn't hurt. David Hendy is a top bloke does our nutrition as well. Hard to really comment on a ration without weight data as at the end of the day it all comes down to cost per kg and days on farm.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I would replace the biscuit meal with maize gluten and carry on as

 

[beaconsboy]

Ok after a chat with David we are going to try some urea protein as well as the soya. Any one got a good price on it cheers