chris elk
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- Location
- sleaford,lincolnshire
Hi, what's the lateset I can spread on grass seed got a failed ley wanting it for grazing in spring around April time , didn't know if to spread on new seed now or wait till march ??
Re seeding
- Thread starter chris elk
- Start date
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I've chucked grass seed about on poached patches in Nov/Dec plenty of times. It always seems to grow thick by the Spring. It will grow very slowly later on, and any clover in it won't get established properly (but will usually come OK next year). Plenty of times, we've sown in October for various reasons, in fact, I drilled some here on Monday.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Depends what you want, would cost me £200 /acre to reseed here, do I want half a job, no!
Plant some rye or straight ryegrass where half a job dont matter
Plant some rye or straight ryegrass where half a job dont matter
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Why so expensive ?
I have a new ley put in to lamb on every year on one farm, this went in on Sunday and has been this late in other years---the success seems to hinge on a warm/wet spring to get things going.
I lamb on these leys from 10th April and I try to stock at a low rate for the first few weeks to let the new seeds have a fighting chance
I lamb on these leys from 10th April and I try to stock at a low rate for the first few weeks to let the new seeds have a fighting chance
- Location
- Ceredigion
2 ton of lime bag muck seed cultivation costs
Base figure would be. £200
Seed and bag muck would be half that
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Yea I did 40acre this time cost me 100 acre, plenty muck and lime, I don't count muck spreading charge or lime as that would be to do anyway.
Baling Hay
Member
lime, fert and muck, well you would do that anyway.
Seed is expensive, as for cultivation why not just direct drill?
- Location
- Cornwall.
First off I hope you know why the original ley failed and have addressed the problem.
Soil temperature here this morning is 12.5dC (dropped two in a week) therefore I'd be more inclined to sow an Italian Ryegrass mixture. By carefully choosing the right IRG's, some varieties will germinate under low temps (7-10dC) and establish over 20% more than the average ryegrass. These will have the ability to grow through the winter (temp above 5dC) therefore offering some grazing opportunities.
Soil temperature here this morning is 12.5dC (dropped two in a week) therefore I'd be more inclined to sow an Italian Ryegrass mixture. By carefully choosing the right IRG's, some varieties will germinate under low temps (7-10dC) and establish over 20% more than the average ryegrass. These will have the ability to grow through the winter (temp above 5dC) therefore offering some grazing opportunities.
- Location
- Cornwall.
Very good suggestion, seeds not expensive.
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
I ploughed, worked it with a grays multiharrow I paid 200 quid for 15 year ago and sowed with combo cos all my contractor has, seen a direct drilled patch nearby fail so had to be done again and still not looking good it will end up costing a fortune, however mine has been a fantastic take of grass and im well pleased with it but bloody docks !!! I think ive been sold dock seed along with grass seed
Baling Hay
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I ploughed, worked it with a grays multiharrow I paid 200 quid for 15 year ago and sowed with combo cos all my contractor has, seen a direct drilled patch nearby fail so had to be done again and still not looking good it will end up costing a fortune, however mine has been a fantastic take of grass and im well pleased with it but bloody docks !!! I think ive been sold dock seed along with grass seed
Dock seeds can last for over 100 years in the soil, think of the amount of seeds you bring up when you plough!
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Im the only person to have ever plough this soil, there has never been any there before, the kind of land it is ploughing is essential if only to smooth it out.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I was working on the theory that I could claim on the salesman's money back guarantee if it didn't establish well. I'm sure he offered one, or maybe that was Wynnstays.......
Putting in IRG would be 'safer', but not much good unless yo want an IRG ley that runs to head every month.
- Location
- Cornwall.
I think your thinking about Wynnstays or was it Cotswold, maybe Olivers, ah no BSH, sorry I can't be more specific, never come across it before.I was working on the theory that I could claim on the salesman's money back guarantee if it didn't establish well. I'm sure he offered one, or maybe that was Wynnstays.......
Buy more sheep!Putting in IRG would be 'safer', but not much good unless yo want an IRG ley that runs to head every month.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Must be 60ish an acre I remember when it was 10Very good suggestion, seeds not expensive.
- Location
- Ceredigion
I don't have to do it but if I reseed I do
- Location
- Cornwall.
10 what?
I have a medium term (5yr) ley with white clover at £49.00/14kg/acre bag then through the low £50's to mid/high £50's for leys containing all current NIAB listed varieties. I don't think any grass mixtures has gone out more than £4.28/kilo this year, apart from organic that is.