'Real' breeders reject EBVs

[Crex]

Interesting article in the Scottish Farmer this week regarding EBVs. I'm always amazed at the ire and misunderstandings the technology seems to get. What does the forum think?

 

[JP1]

Ostriches and sand come to mind

 

[Tim W]

Do you have the text of the full article available?

 

[d.iainm]

I hope not just bought my first recorded tup!!!

 

[cowboysupper]

Haha seen that article earlier, was only a matter of time before it made it on here!

It's fairly clear someone has a specific agenda against EBVs before even setting out to write about it. Not much of an article really, just a few quotes from 'top' breeders.

 

[d.iainm]

Are these the top breeders that pay thousands for hill tups or the ones that win prizes using a feed bag

 

[Crex]

Do you have the text of the full article available?

Unfortunately not, you'll need to buy the SF for the privilege. It is just the usual nonsense, you can imagine.

I'm sure there is a debate to be had about the utilisation of EBVs in certain circumstances, but that wasn't it.

 

[JP1]

Unfortunately not, you'll need to buy the SF for the privilege. It is just the usual nonsense, you can imagine.

I'm sure there is a debate to be had about the utilisation of EBVs in certain circumstances, but that wasn't it.

Can you photo it and upload on full size here?

 

[Crex]

Can you photo it and upload on full size here?

I don't think that would be very fair without the permission of the Scottish Farmer.

 

[JP1]

I don't think that would be very fair without the permission of the Scottish Farmer.

Why? It's in the public domain and this is not a commercial entity

 

[bobajob]

Its not the authors husband that sells the dear blackies is it..

You know the ones that have to have the price in the description of the tup, with not an ebv in sight!

 

[Johnny400]

Heres part of one article, but you cant get it in full online.
http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/business-sales/trendsprices/ebvs-dont-work.22263332

 

[C.J]

When asked the 400 day weight of a young bull my Grandfather replied "I don't breed paper bulls"

 

[M-J-G]

A lot of breeders don't like them because it makes it difficult to have a calf just born when it's already 4 months old.

Same as they are terrified of compulsory Tissue Tagging for BVD as it will make it almost impossible to have two birthdays.

 

[Gilchro]

Before TSF questions E B V perhaps it should justify it's existence first as it seems to be becoming more and more irrelevant by the week

 

[Crex]

Why? It's in the public domain and this is not a commercial entity

Given the fact they don't publish the full article on-line, presumably in an effort to drive sales, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to share it, especially so close to the publication date.

 

[Crex]

Before TSF questions E B V perhaps it should justify it's existence first as it seems to be becoming more and more irrelevant by the week

Where would you find press releases for renewables companies, and the latest in the equestrian world, if it wasn't for the Scottish Farmer?

 

[bigw]

Given the fact they don't publish the full article on-line, presumably in an effort to drive sales, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to share it, especially so close to the publication date.

Yep pile o shite! I dont bother reading it anymore

 

[Crex]

Yep pile o shite! I dont bother reading it anymore

I quite enjoy John Elliot's articles, and one or two of the other folk they get for that section are quite good.

 

[DB67]

People who get big prices tend to because they breed the best. They may be on good ground and fed but if they didn't breed well the buyers wouldn't come back.

Look also at the Scottish farmer on tup prices back in 1910 etc. equivalent to today's prices.

It may look daft to some people but end of the day pedigree sales have always been like this. No point moaning about it.