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Only in UK machines, the pioneers, Samson would be using high grade steel to maintain working profile.Beater metal is generally soft to allow a degree of flex if something big goes in
Only in UK machines, the pioneers, Samson would be using high grade steel to maintain working profile.Beater metal is generally soft to allow a degree of flex if something big goes in
Yes, I have one, a Marshall vantageSomething I forgot to mention about the spteaders that we had in the 50s and 60s was that in weather such as we are experienced at the moment the bedchain would freeze to the bed. Can that be a problem today with rear discharge spreaders?
Did not some manufacturer make a spreader where the manure was pushed back to the beaters hydraulicly?
Those boxes would do a hell of a lot of work before problems but I wouldn’t be bothering changing seals and bearings in a box that used to cost a few hundred quid.We have a 2001 model like this and the 3 single gearboxes are poorly designed and a complete PIA to strip to replace bearings and seals
Those boxes would do a hell of a lot of work before problems but I wouldn’t be bothering changing seals and bearings in a box that used to cost a few hundred quid.
Looks like a late 90's model. The rear shaft looks like it has been replaced at some point with a newer style shaft so sprockets will likely be replaced too. I would say £2-£3k for this one or £4-£5k for a tidy one. Check for play in the gearboxes and how thick the steel is. If it's very thin then walk away and look for a tidier one preferably with the single piece gearbox. We have a 2001 model like this and the 3 single gearboxes are poorly designed and a complete PIA to strip to replace bearings and seals
Yep I’ve had the door freeze shut and only yesterday bed chain moved fine didn’t even think of the beaters filled her up put it to go and they were frozen solid even a nudge with a loader wouldn’t shift them so had to resort to the hottest setting on the jet wash to unfreeze themSomething I forgot to mention about the spteaders that we had in the 50s and 60s was that in weather such as we are experienced at the moment the bedchain would freeze to the bed. Can that be a problem today with rear discharge spreaders?
Did not some manufacturer make a spreader where the manure was pushed back to the beaters hydraulicly?
You're showing off. Pressure washer wasn't frozen solid too?Yep I’ve had the door freeze shut and only yesterday bed chain moved fine didn’t even think of the beaters filled her up put it to go and they were frozen solid even a nudge with a loader wouldn’t shift them so had to resort to the hottest setting on the jet wash to unfreeze them
Yes I struck lucky there with it not being frozen too thank god for slip clutches on the ptoYou're showing off. Pressure washer wasn't frozen solid too?
Admittedly I've resorted to some diesel and a couple of paper bags in a similar situation
Top tip..... Change the PTO shaft shear bolt BEFORE lighting the fire
I used to hire two Samson’s they were greatspreaders, once had a third on the job a Richard western it just got In the way of the Samson’s junk In Comparison . The Samson’s were hire spreaders and in awfull bad condition but never broke completely they took some abuse .Only in UK machines, the pioneers, Samson would be using high grade steel to maintain working profile.
I used to hire two Samson’s they were greatspreaders, once had a third on the job a Richard western it just got In the way of the Samson’s junk In Comparison . The Samson’s were hire spreaders and in awfull bad condition but never broke completely they took some abuse .
Because the Richard western was shorter and slower to fill the old red samasons were low sides and long and very light weigh the threee were running on fiat 100 90’s and they could handle the Samson’s no problem but the western was to heavy empty ! Just a donkey of a thing , them old Samson’s were great tools could go on steep with them lower lighter everything .How so? Undoubtedly the Samson is a different price bracket but if the 3 spreaders are the same size, and spec. There shouldn’t be much of a difference, certainly not to “get in the way” as you put it.
Because the Richard western was shorter and slower to fill the old red samasons were low sides and long and very light weigh the threee were running on fiat 100 90’s and they could handle the Samson’s no problem but the western was to heavy empty ! Just a donkey of a thing , them old Samson’s were great tools could go on steep with them lower lighter everything .
How so? Undoubtedly the Samson is a different price bracket but if the 3 spreaders are the same size, and spec. There shouldn’t be much of a difference, certainly not to “get in the way” as you put it.
The westerns are just as strong as a Samson but twice the bloody weight , back in the day with 100hp tractors the difference was very very noticeable they could handle the light weight of the Samson’s but the donkey weight and height of western made them useless on anything but flat land the old 100 90s with tb turbos were on the max with Samson’s .I believe Samson spreaders are made almost entirely or largely out of high tensile steel. Also their beaters and chains and the like are a different design. I don't know how much more they are than a Richard Western.
I know Richard Westerns are popular but I would prefer a Bunning over one if it was me.
The westerns are just as strong as a Samson but twice the bloody weight , back in the day with 100hp tractors the difference was very very noticeable they could handle the light weight of the Samson’s but the donkey weight and height of western made them useless on anything but flat land the old 100 90s with tb turbos were on the max with Samson’s .
Well not really , it just was not as good in any shape or form like I say in comparison it was junk probably spread 1/4 of what a Samson did it wouldn’t spread lighter straw y stuff either if I remember just bridged , better than rotor spreader but not a patch on Samson . It was sold at a local collective for under 3k I didn’t even bid wouldn’t want to own it .So when you call the Western “Junk” it’s purely based on lack of grunt up front, and nothing to do with the spreaders themself