Reclaiming Land

Discussion in 'Agricultural Matters' started by JoeFo, Jan 12, 2019.

  1. JoeFo

    JoeFo New Member

    I have an area of about 3.5 acres which need reclaiming. It hasn’t been used for over 20 years. I intend to put sheep on it. It mainly comprises of heather, fir bushes, blackthorn and some wild trees. I intend to put sheep on it.

    Does anyone have any advice? I am thinking of getting a machine in and then putting Typhon and grass seeds while spreading lime and nitrogen?

    Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
     
  2. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    Is it dry
     
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  3. Nearly

    Nearly Member

    Location:
    North of York
    In the future it could earn you more in its current state than keeping sheeps. :(
     
  4. Paddington

    Paddington Member

    Location:
    Soggy Shropshire
    Pigs will turn it over, dig out any bushes, manure the land before reseeding, you can also have some nice pork in a few months time.:)
     
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  5. JoeFo

    JoeFo New Member

    Yes it is dry/rocky ground.
     
  6. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    Get the trash removed and plant some rape or turnips to clean it
    You will need to get the soil tested
    Dont plough it just spray with roundup and shallow cultivate
     
  7. I'll sell you some pigs.
    Born outside.
    Can dig up anything
     
  8. Campani

    Campani Member

    Will the work ever be financially viable? Whats the return on investment after reclaiming the land?
     
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  9. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    If you owned a house would you let it rot to the ground , his return is on its value
     
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  10. JoeFo

    JoeFo New Member

    I intend to get one of these

    Probably not finically viable up front but long term should pay off.
     
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  11. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

    Location:
    Owaka, New Zealand
    How long can you wait?
    What's the likely return?

    Anything that has been caused by a lack of grazing can be undone by grazing, sounds like it has simply been over-rested?
    Call in the machines if you like, but at the end of the day if the sheep are going to be making the money, I'd use sheep, cattle, horses, goats, pigs first.

    @hendrebc shared a cracking video of someone reclaiming land with horses earlier, simply by grazing the scrub properly as opposed to removing everything and paying to put it back again.
     
  12. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

    Location:
    Owaka, New Zealand
    Thanks, that's the one!
    If you have the time, a far more sustainable way than spending a whole heap of money to achieve a lesser result.
     
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  13. Hfd Cattle

    Hfd Cattle Member

    Location:
    Hereford
    Pigs every time . Do it in small patches with electric fencing. You may need to dig up roots etc but the pigs will do a great job.
     
  14. but that's America
    & horses :eek::eek:
    that'll never work here
    too wet
    too dry
    different weeds
    different soil

    nah, much better to spend lots of money on machines & diesel & chemicals & fertiliser & seeds & plough it all up & then bash it in to submission, do a proper job - that's what "real" farmers do

    you greeny tree hugging types think its sooo easy don't you :mad::scratchhead:



























    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::whistle:
     
  15. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

    Location:
    Owaka, New Zealand
    The land is a system, the further we choose to ignore that simple fact the more expensive and short-lived the gains will be.

    Weeds are pioneers, that's all, same as the settlers that came here set it up for us, brushweeds and thistles and docks set it up for pasture.
    Machines and chemicals set it up for more weeds, as they never had the chance to do their work.
     
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  16. Hfd Cattle

    Hfd Cattle Member

    Location:
    Hereford
    You will probably find more work around for the machine to help pay for it.
     
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  17. Dry Rot

    Dry Rot Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    ...and then move on to your front lawn when they've done the field. Now, how do I know that?:eek:
     
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  18. JoeFo

    JoeFo New Member

    The biggest problem is gaining access to the perimeter to fence. As it is overgrown with briars, trees etc it’s not possible to fence. My concerns is that if I were to leave sheep out in it they would get caught in briars etc
     
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  19. Hfd Cattle

    Hfd Cattle Member

    Location:
    Hereford
    That was how we did our garden .waited till the builders had finished then put a sow and 8 piglets in . They dug the garden and made a fairly good job of levelling !
     
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