Recommend me a basic fert spreader

welger

Member
Location
derbyshire
we are looking at new fert spinner must hold 4 600kg bags.min 20m spread width
only spread 0,24,24 ,34.5 and 26n 37 sulphur .don't want to be changing vanes for these or disc for broader spreading.got a krm don't want another
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I have an MDS 1131 with the Telemat border spreader on it. You don’t do anything to the spreading vanes, you just drop the Telemat into place hydraulically on the outside run, then (remember to) lift it out for the rest of the field. The plates on the Telemat are moved into different places according to fert type & spread width.
The border limiter on the newer Axis models works in exactly the same manner.

That MDS spreader is for sale if anyone is looking, having gone to a weighing Axis now. The only electrics on the MDS are for the lights.:)

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Advertised on classified now: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/kuhn-mds1131-fert-spreader.315798/ ;)
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I have had an Amazone ZAM for 18 years. Still going well. Need to be careful setting rate as a tiny movement of the shutters makes rather a large difference with Pulan that runs like water. Scale goes from 0 to 80 but my full range of application rates goes 23 to 31 on the scale I. e. 150 to 270 kg/ ha . To my mind the adjustment is over sensitive but I suppose it’s difficult to satisfy everybody with every different product. Split hopper is a pain as it rarely runs out each side simultaneously. It’s a clay putting the border disc on round the outsides of fields but otherwise it has never let me down though remember to shut the shutter ram taps if you leave it loaded up or likely to come back to half a tonne run out onto the floor as the spring loaded shutters self open if your tractor valves are leaky which mine always are.
 
I have had an Amazone ZAM for 18 years. Still going well. Need to be careful setting rate as a tiny movement of the shutters makes rather a large difference with Pulan that runs like water. Scale goes from 0 to 80 but my full range of application rates goes 23 to 31 on the scale I. e. 150 to 270 kg/ ha . To my mind the adjustment is over sensitive but I suppose it’s difficult to satisfy everybody with every different product. Split hopper is a pain as it rarely runs out each side simultaneously. It’s a clay putting the border disc on round the outsides of fields but otherwise it has never let me down though remember to shut the shutter ram taps if you leave it loaded up or likely to come back to half a tonne run out onto the floor as the spring loaded shutters self open if your tractor valves are leaky which mine always are.
had that problem with mine this week left a little trail up the road!!!!!!!!!
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
remember to shut the shutter ram taps if you leave it loaded up or likely to come back to half a tonne run out onto the floor as the spring loaded shutters self open if your tractor valves are leaky which mine always are.

had that problem with mine this week left a little trail up the road!!!!!!!!!

Tractors with open centre hydraulics often have at least some spool slices that are designed to be 'cheap' and leak back. Tractor manufacturers should really fit all 'zero-leak' valves on their tractors at the price they now are. Indeed they should have sorted this decades ago. Really is no excuse for their penny-pinching.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
It was secondhand. It now has the revised actuators on, which are a slightly different design.
I suspected as much. I wonder how much more reliable these new ones are though? The originals on my Vicon, which are different to Kuhn's, failed in year three, one at the start of the season and one at the end iirc. The replacements have lasted for the six-and-a-bit subsequent years, although one was sticky and slow at the beginning of last season until it had a few day's work. This year, no bother again.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I expect said actuators are the price each of a good tup?
I'd prefer to compare the price to a ton or two of fertiliser, which I find is easily saved by the application accuracy of these sophisticated machines. Nobody has ever claimed that they are cheaper to run per acre than a really basic model but, for me at least, it has way more than paid for itself over a decade of use due to its accuracy of application no with variable forward speed.

A really compelling argument for buying a weighing machine is if a tidy profit is being made on the farm, the whole cost and specifically the difference in purchase price between a basic and all-singing-and-dancing machine is offset against tax.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Tractors with open centre hydraulics often have at least some spool slices that are designed to be 'cheap' and leak back. Tractor manufacturers should really fit all 'zero-leak' valves on their tractors at the price they now are. Indeed they should have sorted this decades ago. Really is no excuse for their penny-pinching.

My fertiliser spreading tractor is a David Brown (Case) 1494.?
Does pull a wheely at times if I over fill the hopper.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I expect said actuators are the price each of a good tup?

Yes, about that.:( However, having already bought the spreader, my options at that point were:
1. scrap it,
2. sell it on with undisclosed faults to an unsuspecting buyer,
3. carry on and fix it properly,

The first option would hurt too much, the second option wouldn’t allow me to sleep soundly, and the third option leaves me with a nearly ‘new’ (think Trigger’s broom) spreader for about £4500 (as opposed to the £3k paid originally).
It’s a lovely spreader to use but, in hindsight, I’d have been financially better off sticking with the simple one. I just hope the new actuators last as promised....
 

C&Cows

Member
Livestock Farmer
[QUOTE="Cowabunga, post: 6898411, member: 71
So does my 7490, which I have to steer with the brakes to get up my yard with a full hopper [five big bags].

Out of interest how much weight have you got on the front of your 7490?
 

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