Red Clover

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
we put vetch with h/rye, worked well
in a grazing ley, it didn't
will grow w/wold with vetch, behind wheat, this autumn, to cut, pre maize next spring.
the only downside of r/clover, is verticillium wilt, which means it needs a break.
How well does it come back after cutting , Is that winter or spring vetch , I've put a fair bit in this week with Italian Ryegrass
 

HarryB97

Member
Mixed Farmer
Fairly high in protein and more drought resistant than most plants but not a patch on Lucerne in that department. Takes longer to get going in the spring than grass but then motors. If you let it get to mature the stems can become like twigs, become unpalatable and damage wrap. I find it lasts three years then needs ripping up. Picture below is second cut last year. This mix is red clover, festulolium, fescue, cocksfoot & ryegrass.
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Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
God I hate reps and firms that state "clover mix"

So many varieties and types to choose from.

Kent wild white was it?
For your reference, I was not referring to the mix I was referring to a grass that I use in stressful situation s ,as in dry or wet , others may disagree, but that's the idea if a polite discussion on a forum , I am here to have a chat and try and be helpful, not push seed mixes ,
I am now off on my bike for a bit of peace 🙂
 

JMTHORNLEY

Member
Location
Glossop
God I hate reps and firms that state "clover mix"

So many varieties and types to choose from.

Kent wild white was it?
The issue I always find is 'reps' are told to tout all they can. @Kevtherev mentioned last night a lot of this valuable information is self taught through trial and error in an open forum where said reps can the push as their experience or 'knowledge' :ROFLMAO:
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
For your reference, I was not referring to the mix I was referring to a grass that I use in stressful situation s ,as in dry or wet , others may disagree, but that's the idea if a polite discussion on a forum , I am here to have a chat and try and be helpful, not push seed mixes ,
I am now off on my bike for a bit of peace 🙂

Seeing as the thread is titled "red clover" it maybe "helpful" to mention the clovers in the mix for this "wet ground "

The issue I always find is 'reps' are told to tout all they can. @Kevtherev mentioned last night a lot of this valuable information is self taught through trial and error in an open forum where said reps can the push as their experience or 'knowledge' :ROFLMAO:

Some would push what they have too much of left over!
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
How well does it come back after cutting , Is that winter or spring vetch , I've put a fair bit in this week with Italian Ryegrass
we cut the rye/vetch, end may, 15ton/acre, slurried, ploughed and into maize 8 days later, so no regrowth.
in the grazing ley, it didn't come back
if sown with w/wold, l will let you know next spring ! If we can get the timing right, we will aim for 2 cuts, pre maize, whether the vetch comes back, for 2nd cut, remains to be seen.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
we overseeded some pp with balsana clover, last aut, not the best of results, but what grew is OK.
This year, we will spin on a mix of white, balsana and crimson clover, on all grass ground, and await to see what happens. For what clovers can/might do for you, its a very cheap input.
 

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