Red Diesel?

[Jimbo]

What about hedge cutting . We do quite a bit of cutting for farm businesses which will be fine on red but also do there roadside hedges ect . Will this be ok on red ? . Also do some work for people that have maybe bought a farm steading and farm road but don’t have an agricultural business maybe just horses . Will this be a no no on red ?

 

[Lakesdigger]

Because construction uses far more red diesel than ag and making them using white diesel equates to millions or even billions in tax revenue I believe.

I'm sure the fishing industry uses the most red/rebated fuel and I'd be surprised if construction and ag weren't similar. Imo construction is the easiest target to take it from to begin with as cost can be simply passed onto customer, but it won't end there and is the beginning of the end of rebated fuel in the uk certainly under the current system (where you pay the lower price to begin with).

 

[Phil P]

Time to buy a Digger then

Don’t know how we managed before we got one! It’s probably our most used bit off kit over winter and has saved us a fortune in contractors. I budgeted for it to pay for its self over 5 years but it will do it in 3.

 

[Lakesdigger]

What about hedge cutting . We do quite a bit of cutting for farm businesses which will be fine on red but also do there roadside hedges ect . Will this be ok on red ? . Also do some work for people that have maybe bought a farm steading and farm road but don’t have an agricultural business maybe just horses . Will this be a no no on red ?

Don't know specifically on hedge cutting but i know there are a few random exemptions. Diesel ride on mowers for example (not a mini tractor with a mowing implement on the back but built with cutting deck as part of the machine) are ok on red still as are road rollers.

 

[jh.]

Time to buy a Digger then

Might just be a matter of time before red is stopped imo.

For years all we have heard is that we need more and cheaper housing , yet they have banned red in building.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Might just be a matter of time before red is stopped imo.

For years all we have heard is that we need more and cheaper housing , yet they have banned red in building.

And then on the other hand biomass encourages the use of more red than probably any other single operation.

 

[Half Pipe]

Can someone explain to me why the government have done away with red diesel use in construction, what is the intended aim of this?

It will stop alot of cars running on red lifted from sites. They will use white now, so government get their tax. Will be upto construction to pay for it or tighten up on fuel security

 

[TheTallGuy]

What about hedge cutting . We do quite a bit of cutting for farm businesses which will be fine on red but also do there roadside hedges ect . Will this be ok on red ? . Also do some work for people that have maybe bought a farm steading and farm road but don’t have an agricultural business maybe just horses . Will this be a no no on red ?

Hedge cutting is allowed as per the links above

 

[Timbo]

Can someone explain to me why the government have done away with red diesel use in construction, what is the intended aim of this?

Money. If you hadnt noticed, the country owes £billions

 

[Steevo]

Can someone explain to me why the government have done away with red diesel use in construction, what is the intended aim of this?

“To accelerate the transition to a net-zero future” or some such phrase.

If fuel is more expensive, it will encourage development of other greener fuels.

Until of course (like proposed road pricing) they then get taxed too…..because the government wall don’t want to lose the tax revenue!

 

[jh.]

And then on the other hand biomass encourages the use of more red than probably any other single operation.

So stick us all on red and watch the tax roll in ?

The rest of us will just have to use less , no idea if that will be through direct drilling or planting trees on the marginal bits

 

[Phil P]

I'm sure the fishing industry uses the most red/rebated fuel and I'd be surprised if construction and ag weren't similar. Imo construction is the easiest target to take it from to begin with as cost can be simply passed onto customer, but it won't end there and is the beginning of the end of rebated fuel in the uk certainly under the current system (where you pay the lower price to begin with).

According to the 2019 ONS survey the uk used 7.5m/t of rebate fuel in that year. Agriculture, forestry and fisheries where responsible for 1.6m/t of that. By far the biggest user is transport at 2.4m/t

But your right, construction on its own doesn’t use as much as ag but it isn’t isn’t far behind at just over 1m/t but construction isn’t the only sector losing rebate fuel! Just think how many fridge units are on the road (transport)

In case anyone is interested -

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2feconomy%2fenvironmentalaccounts%2fdatasets%2fukenvironmentalaccountsfuelusebytypeandindustry%2fcurrent/fuelusebytypeandindustry.xls

 

[sjt01]

Can someone explain to me why the government have done away with red diesel use in construction, what is the intended aim of this?

Put up the cost of the HS2 build? In one pocket and out of the other.

 

[Fendt516profi]

This is how I read the law, yet we need a piece of land levelled to put up a barn, and turning area, surely thats agricultural?
I think I may have opened up a can of worms here!

The simple answer to this is get him to come in march.

What about hedge cutting . We do quite a bit of cutting for farm businesses which will be fine on red but also do there roadside hedges ect . Will this be ok on red ? . Also do some work for people that have maybe bought a farm steading and farm road but don’t have an agricultural business maybe just horses . Will this be a no no on red ?

 

[Universe]

Is the golf course one the odd one out here or is it just me...
Couldn't be that the movers and shakers of this country don't want their subs to increase could it...

 

[jellybean]

Is the golf course one the odd one out here or is it just me...
Couldn't be that the movers and shakers of this country don't want their subs to increase could it...

That's exactly what I thought, why the hell should golf clubs and sports facilities be exempt.

 

[Universe]

That's exactly what I thought, why the hell should golf clubs and sports facilities be exempt.

And strangely no mention of parks, which are for the benefit of all. Give em the benefit of doubt, maybe they forgot that one

 

[ollie989898]

Put up the cost of the HS2 build? In one pocket and out of the other.

And Hinkley/Sizewell and any other major infrastructure project.

I'm confused, red diesel apparently is AOK for trains. Obviously the rail companies have some friends in government.

 

[Exfarmer]

Can someone explain to me why the government have done away with red diesel use in construction, what is the intended aim of this?

Tax , dear boy, tax!

 

[HDAV]

Can someone explain to me why the government have done away with red diesel use in construction, what is the intended aim of this?

Promote greener fuels and eventually reduce Carbon and emissions who will buy an electric digger when diesel is cheap……..