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Can that be confirmed "Sill Boy"
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A farmer called the police, they were told that local police had visited an address that was unoccupied. That is all I know, can't confirm it beyond that.
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certainly not members of RECC or MCS approved installers as not on either database
PhilatGMIEnergy
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Just a quick post for everyones info
Timescales for an install
Systems under 50kW
Planning not needed on roof but still needed for ground mounts 8-12 weeks.
Grid connection still needed though, SP Networks typical return time 45 working days (9weeks)
You need to submit now for any chance at all (like tomorrow) they may return quicker than above (outside chance) but there may be more time see below.
Construction timescale 1-2 weeks
Systems over 50kW
Planning permitted development on roof but a 28 day process minimum, still needed for ground mounts 8-12 weeks.
Grid connection still needed though, SP Networks typical return time 45 working days upto 190kW AC export (9weeks) 65 days for over 190kW or where on Half Hour metering
You need to submit now for any chance at all (like tomorrow) they may return quicker than above (outside chance) but there may be more time see below.
ALTHOUGH Scotland only - You could install under ROC's rather than FiT's upto April '16 so in Scotland you have more time for systems over 50kW!
FiT extension - possibly
From what we are hearing the legal timescales to implement the FiT cuts may mean they will struggle to get this implemented by 1st Jan. Ive seen emails from gov saying that the thoughts are end of Jan early Feb before changes are implemented, they won't announce this until late Nov so not to encourage a bigger rush.
Solar's dead after Jan?
NO NO NO, if you've use on site, any competent installer should be designing / sizing your system for maximum use on site. If you use 50 to 75% of generated power on site you will see 12-14% returns even under the new tariffs post Jan. You just need to speak to a company that knows what they are doing.
Timescales for an install
Systems under 50kW
Planning not needed on roof but still needed for ground mounts 8-12 weeks.
Grid connection still needed though, SP Networks typical return time 45 working days (9weeks)
You need to submit now for any chance at all (like tomorrow) they may return quicker than above (outside chance) but there may be more time see below.
Construction timescale 1-2 weeks
Systems over 50kW
Planning permitted development on roof but a 28 day process minimum, still needed for ground mounts 8-12 weeks.
Grid connection still needed though, SP Networks typical return time 45 working days upto 190kW AC export (9weeks) 65 days for over 190kW or where on Half Hour metering
You need to submit now for any chance at all (like tomorrow) they may return quicker than above (outside chance) but there may be more time see below.
ALTHOUGH Scotland only - You could install under ROC's rather than FiT's upto April '16 so in Scotland you have more time for systems over 50kW!
FiT extension - possibly
From what we are hearing the legal timescales to implement the FiT cuts may mean they will struggle to get this implemented by 1st Jan. Ive seen emails from gov saying that the thoughts are end of Jan early Feb before changes are implemented, they won't announce this until late Nov so not to encourage a bigger rush.
Solar's dead after Jan?
NO NO NO, if you've use on site, any competent installer should be designing / sizing your system for maximum use on site. If you use 50 to 75% of generated power on site you will see 12-14% returns even under the new tariffs post Jan. You just need to speak to a company that knows what they are doing.
PhilatGMIEnergy
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Haha solars like farming but we do the late not early shift!
Never enough hours in the day
Never enough hours in the day
David@SBA
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Phil, You say you've seen an email suggesting FITs cuts may not be implemented until early February... Do you have access to this and can you disclose the source?
David@SBA
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Also Phil, I've only ever dealt with FITs so am not up to scratch on the finer details of ROCs. Under ROCs, in addition to the income from sale of ROCs, do you also have the income from what ever PPA you have in place?
Always dismissed solar as an option for me as only got a few lights and sockets in sheds that use power and believed big headline figures on income generation only really came in when you took energy savings into account but got a neighbour telling me I am crazy not to be doing it like him who's in the for last minute rush to get it done.
Got a 48mx 15m SSE facing roof with 3 phase going into the building. What sort of costs and payback would you be looking at for a system that would fit on there before the cut off date? Roof is only 12.5* pitch but as I say pretty much south facing.
Got a 48mx 15m SSE facing roof with 3 phase going into the building. What sort of costs and payback would you be looking at for a system that would fit on there before the cut off date? Roof is only 12.5* pitch but as I say pretty much south facing.
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Hi David, The email was supposedly from one of the FiT team at DECC who control the consultation and what happens out of the back of that etc. I don't want to post the email or give further details as it was an email which could of course have been doctored and I don't want to be spreading unsubstantiated rumors. But Ive been told by colleagues in the industry who attended the recent FiT consultation roadshows that DECC have been holding about the FiT Review that one of the slides in their presentation also said changes Mid Feb so it would seem to have some truth.
After looking at the legal process that they have to under go in order to enact the changes I believe that around Feb 8th is a likely date. This is based on the fact that the amended law must sit in the House of Commons for 40 continuous days prior to approval the only 40 day continuous period is from 5th Jan so I can't see it changing before then. Now I'm just a simple solar lad but from all the people Ive talked to in political lobbying positions agree that it looks like Feb 8th.
From a ROC's perspective yes you will get 1.3ROC's ground mount or 1.5 ROC's if on a roof per 1000kWh's generated so approx 5.76p (G) to 6.65p plus recycle value at around 4-6% on top in addition to what ever you sell your power at, which if straight back to grid would be 5.3p ish. So a ground mount export only would get in the region of 11.4p / kWh for all hours generated, more if on a roof.
After looking at the legal process that they have to under go in order to enact the changes I believe that around Feb 8th is a likely date. This is based on the fact that the amended law must sit in the House of Commons for 40 continuous days prior to approval the only 40 day continuous period is from 5th Jan so I can't see it changing before then. Now I'm just a simple solar lad but from all the people Ive talked to in political lobbying positions agree that it looks like Feb 8th.
From a ROC's perspective yes you will get 1.3ROC's ground mount or 1.5 ROC's if on a roof per 1000kWh's generated so approx 5.76p (G) to 6.65p plus recycle value at around 4-6% on top in addition to what ever you sell your power at, which if straight back to grid would be 5.3p ish. So a ground mount export only would get in the region of 11.4p / kWh for all hours generated, more if on a roof.
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Where about are you? I'll do you some rough figures
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Assuming your covering that in a block say 8 panels down slope by 40 panels along (so no rooflights) thats about 83kW. Given a cost of approx £1000/kW so £83k you will yield say 900kWh's per kW of panels installed if you exported all that power at 5.1p plus 9.63p FiT so 14.73p @ (83kWx900kWh's) 74,700 = £11,003/yr index linked.
To be fair these are more tan likely conservative in terms of yield and cost i.e. it will do more hours and be cheaper to install than this but depends what roof material is but should be in the 10% bracket of accuracy
To be fair these are more tan likely conservative in terms of yield and cost i.e. it will do more hours and be cheaper to install than this but depends what roof material is but should be in the 10% bracket of accuracy
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Thanks. Interesting to know those details. Am I not right in thinking ground mounted is now only getting 1.2 ROCs/MWh?
Hi, I have joined this forum to post about Red Tower. I was taken in by Steve McGilly as were a lot of my neihbours. We got stung for a double amount as they were proposing two instalations on my land,
I took a trip out today to visit the various addresses posted by Cheddar and, if there was any doubt, I think it is safe to say we have been conned.
23 Castlehill Crescent Kilmacolm is a small terraced redidential property. Nobody aswered the door but there was somebody in as I saw them peeping out of an upstairs window. I coudn't find Tower Lights at Drumpellier Place. Green Energy Heating Solution are no longer at 272 Bath Street Glasgow. 272 Bath Street is an office services building and PO box for various companies. The staff were obviously well used to dealing with enquiries about Green Energy Solutions and were quick to point out that they no longer had any conection. I also visited Mr McGilly's flat at Fox Street but these are secure flats and nobody answered the call bell.
I reported Red Tower and the two directors to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk and Trading Standards and I intend to contact the Police. I would urge everybody to do the same as you will probably need a crime number to claim money back of your credit card issuer and it would be nice to get justice.
I took a trip out today to visit the various addresses posted by Cheddar and, if there was any doubt, I think it is safe to say we have been conned.
23 Castlehill Crescent Kilmacolm is a small terraced redidential property. Nobody aswered the door but there was somebody in as I saw them peeping out of an upstairs window. I coudn't find Tower Lights at Drumpellier Place. Green Energy Heating Solution are no longer at 272 Bath Street Glasgow. 272 Bath Street is an office services building and PO box for various companies. The staff were obviously well used to dealing with enquiries about Green Energy Solutions and were quick to point out that they no longer had any conection. I also visited Mr McGilly's flat at Fox Street but these are secure flats and nobody answered the call bell.
I reported Red Tower and the two directors to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk and Trading Standards and I intend to contact the Police. I would urge everybody to do the same as you will probably need a crime number to claim money back of your credit card issuer and it would be nice to get justice.
PhilatGMIEnergy
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David 1.2Roc's is Apr 16/17 but Roc's will be shut to large scale solar end Mar 15
Bob quite a few suppliers will offer market rates for power sold into grid, you need to be selling a bit though. If your just selling excess from say a 50kW then 4.85p from your fit provider will be the rate, if your exporting all from a 250kW you should be in the 5.1-5.3p range dependent on location as rates are sensitive to local pass through charges.
Bob quite a few suppliers will offer market rates for power sold into grid, you need to be selling a bit though. If your just selling excess from say a 50kW then 4.85p from your fit provider will be the rate, if your exporting all from a 250kW you should be in the 5.1-5.3p range dependent on location as rates are sensitive to local pass through charges.
Thanks for that so probably looking at 8-9 years before any real income from them if doing it all on borrowed money then. Might not be for me after all.
Hadn't realised this thread was specifically about problems with a particular company. Just did a search for solar on here and added to the most recently replied to thread.
gullible guy
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Hi Lynsey,where are you,still trying to get in contact with you?