Red Tractor Board members

[Wolds Beef]

Right, Who on here is a member of any of the RED TRACTOR boards? Would you please identify yourselves, even anonamously would be good! So that we can pass ideas or ask questions to you.
If farmers have a direct feed into the boards it would be surely much more democratic!!
WB

 

[texas pete]

Yes please Identify yourselves, so we can all give you large pats on the back for a job well done....

 

[Wooly]

Right, Who on here is a member of any of the RED TRACTOR boards? Would you please identify yourselves, even anonamously would be good! So that we can pass ideas or ask questions to you.
If farmers have a direct feed into the boards it would be surely much more democratic!!
WB

Not a single board member has stood up above the parapet in the last 15 years, so don't expect it to happen now !!

Especially as the fast majority on here despise the scheme, so not sure they would be brave enough to take the negativity.

Guy gets enough stick and he at least tries to explain the reason behind some of the stories and the good bits the NFU are involved in.

 

[TripleSix]

Who We Are: The Red Tractor Team - Red Tractor Assurance

Red Tractor is a not-for-profit company created by farmers and industry leaders in 2000.

assurance.redtractor.org.uk

 

[Chris F]

Right, Who on here is a member of any of the RED TRACTOR boards? Would you please identify yourselves, even anonamously would be good! So that we can pass ideas or ask questions to you.
If farmers have a direct feed into the boards it would be surely much more democratic!!
WB

There are farmers on the board - its isn't a democratic organisation. Not everyone has a say, but I'm sure there is a way to feed information in. Many threads on TFF have done just that.

 

[Steevo]

There are farmers on the board - its isn't a democratic organisation. Not everyone has a say, but I'm sure there is a way to feed information in. Many threads on TFF have done just that.

I'd be interested in the definition of "farmer"......

 

[Chris F]

I'd be interested in the definition of "farmer"......

I'm always wary of any one who claims to be a farmer and wears a suit. But in the political arena it is the norm. All the NFU wear suits and its mandatory at events like Oxford Farming Conference. I'll need to buy one for this years event. The thing is, anyone who has the time to do this sort of thing has probably delegated tasks away on their own farm. That doesn't mean their passion isn't farming though.

 

[TripleSix]

I'd be interested in the definition of "farmer"......

Have a look through the links I put above.

Some are uni grads and inside type people.

Some are big acres family farm, some are sheep farmers from Cumbria.

I was surprised.

 

[Henarar]

Yes please Identify yourselves, so we can all give you large pats on the back for a job well done....

Yep @gone up the hill time to own up and take the praise that's due

 

[Steevo]

I'm always wary of any one who claims to be a farmer and wears a suit. But in the political arena it is the norm. All the NFU wear suits and its mandatory at events like Oxford Farming Conference. I'll need to buy one for this years event. The thing is, anyone who has the time to do this sort of thing has probably delegated tasks away on their own farm. That doesn't mean their passion isn't farming though.

I wouldn’t like to generalise about suits. Looking smart and professional is only sensible.

I just wonder how connected some of these RT are with the effects of their decisions at ground level. @Clive for example I’m sure has plenty of the day-to-day operations delegated, but equally knows the headaches at ground level and isn’t afraid to get stuck in to appreciate that and understand his business.

Sometimes people can become far removed from their roots, even if their passion is farming.

 

[Clive]

I wouldn’t like to generalise about suits. Looking smart and professional is only sensible.

I just wonder how connected some of these RT are with the effects of their decisions at ground level. @Clive for example I’m sure has plenty of the day-to-day operations delegated, but equally knows the headaches at ground level and isn’t afraid to get stuck in to appreciate that and understand his business.

Sometimes people can become far removed from their roots, even if their passion is farming.

.............. just got in from unblocking a grain dryer after a chain snapped


sorry,, what were you saying about disconnected from whats going on ?



I actually see the issue as not "a suit thing" but some that see it as a career path to top up their farm income that's simply not enough or a full time job any longer, the NFU is littered with such people and many more who wanabe , I will share a sentence someone sent me in an email this morning that I thought summed it up well ...............................

They (the NFU / AHDB) are slow moving politically motivated monoliths, paralyzed by too many agendas and too many career paths

 

[Danllan]

.............. just got in from unblocking a grain dryer after a chain snapped


sorry,, what were you saying about disconnected from whats going on ?



I actually see the issue as not "a suit thing" but some see it as a career path to top up their farm income that's simply not enough or a full tie job any longer, the NFU is littered with such people and many more who wana be , I will share a sentence someone sent me in an email this morning that I thought summed it up well ...............................

And so we're back to the fact that the NFU isn't fit for purpose, but that nobody - me and you included - has the time to set up an alternative, so we're stuck with them...

 

[Henarar]

And so we're back to the fact that the NFU isn't fit for purpose, but that nobody - me and you included - has the time to set up an alternative, so we're stuck with them...

your not meant to comment till you have set up an alternative
and you should really stop bashing your head like that it can't do you any good

 

[Danllan]

your not meant to comment till you have set up an alternative
and you should really stop bashing your head like that it can't do you any good

I know, I know, but it feels good when I stop.

 

[Clive]

your not meant to comment till you have set up an alternative
and you should really stop bashing your head like that it can't do you any good

give me their £37.8 million income (down form £56.8 million) the year before and I reckon I could sort you a bloody good alternative !! in fact with that kind of cash I think even my 8yr lad could do better frankly !

 

[Danllan]

give me their £37.8 million income (down form £56.8 million) the year before and I reckon I could sort you a bloody good alternative !! in fact with that kind of cash I think even my 8yr lad could do better frankly !

I've seen the carnage mine can achieve with £20 so, dislike the NFU though I do, I'd not be too sure about that last point.

 

[Clive]

I've seen the carnage mine can achieve with £20 so, dislike the NFU though I do, I'd not be too sure about that last point.

What could possibly go wrong ?

 

[Danllan]

What could possibly go wrong ?

It involved, silly slime, snappits, mentos and large bottles of pop - and then me grovelling to Mrs Danllan and forking out for professional carpet cleaners...

 

[spin cycle]

an organisation that preaches 'openess and transparency' to farmers yet the individuals behind it have no intention of doing so themselves.....sooner or later that has to change.....if it doesn't FA will be valued worthless....cracks already showing

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Okay, I'll confess, I did have a spell on the Red Tractor Pigs Board. The real power actually lies in the Technical Advisory Committees for each sector, which set the standards, which are then rubber stamped by the sector boards.
I never claimed or got any expenses and it definitely wasn't any kind of ego trip, just an offshoot of when I was an elected member of the National Pig Association Producer Group (similar to an NFU sector board). If I'm perfectly honest, I was pretty rubbish at both jobs, much better at something where I can be in charge probably.