Red Tractor Chair sells out all members

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
They simply have to not use any method/ practice / product that would be illegal for farmers in the UK.
This would actually make it easier to organise trade agreements.
Not sure if this is true.Plenty of OSR imported that was grown from neonic treated seed ie Canada.GM products too and meat from developing countries without our welfare standards.
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
My nearest market the culls basically always go to the same Bedfordshire abattoir if I took them there rather than 25 miles to market first. I realise this is an RT thread but I find it very distasteful that I should probably be listening to my mates and trucking them North to other live markets like Bentham; same cow here £1/kg live with FA, £1.45-1.60 per kg same cow not even FA up North. The whole "cartel" thing stinks and I've a feeling I will continue to get played because after a lifetime's service (15 - 18 year old cows) I don't want them shipped around, I'd like to keep them local and moved with care and dignity
The French would consider them good eating. 15 years of sunshine and grass improves the flavour.
Can you eat 2 cows a year?
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Not sure if this is true.Plenty of OSR imported that was grown from neonic treated seed ie Canada.GM products too and meat from developing countries without our welfare standards.

That is my understanding of the bill. I'd be very happy for someone to correct.


(2) The condition in this subsection is that a Minister of the Crown has laid before Parliament a statement confirming that— (a) the agreement contains an affirmation of the United Kingdom’s rights and obligations under the World Trade Organisation Sanitary and Phytosanitary Agreement, and (b) any agricultural or food product imported into the United Kingdom under the agreement will have been produced or processed according to standards which, on the date of their importation, are equivalent to, or exceed, the relevant domestic standards and regulations in relation to— (i) animal health and welfare, (ii) protection of the environment, (iii) food safety, hygiene and traceability, and (iv) plant health.

It's hard to understand why the Conservative party could justify their objection to this when it is pretty much what they promised to do. C U Next Tuesdays.

As @DrWazzock alluded, you can see why the Chairman of RT voted against it, as it would end the extortion racket with imports and non RT being 'equal'. Why jump through hoops without a premium.
 
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Tamar

Member
If we stood together as a country and refused to pay into red tractor it would collapse and the buyers would still need to purchase from us. It would only be fair against cheap low standard imports.


The time to do it will be the first day that the USA imported their hormone beef into our Country.

Karma for the RT board voting to import lower standards food, while screwing the very people that are keeping them in a job !



If only we had an organisation to stand up for farmers against the bizaar rules that RT make up. They could also highlight the complete nonsense of importing food that is grown with chemicals, plant breeding and medicines that British farmers are banned from using.
 

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
That is my understanding of the bill. I'd be very happy for someone to correct.


(2) The condition in this subsection is that a Minister of the Crown has laid before Parliament a statement confirming that— (a) the agreement contains an affirmation of the United Kingdom’s rights and obligations under the World Trade Organisation Sanitary and Phytosanitary Agreement, and (b) any agricultural or food product imported into the United Kingdom under the agreement will have been produced or processed according to standards which, on the date of their importation, are equivalent to, or exceed, the relevant domestic standards and regulations in relation to— (i) animal health and welfare, (ii) protection of the environment, (iii) food safety, hygiene and traceability, and (iv) plant health.

It's hard to understand why the Conservative party could justify their objection to this when it is pretty much what they promised to do. C U Next Tuesdays.

As @DrWazzock alluded, you can see why the Chairman of RT voted against it, as it would end the extortion racket with imports and non RT being 'equal'. Why jump through hoops without a premium.
Yes,sorry ,misread your quote . We're batting on the same side.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
The time to do it will be the first day that the USA imported their hormone beef into our Country.

Karma for the RT board voting to import lower standards food, while screwing the very people that are keeping them in a job !



If only we had an organisation to stand up for farmers against the bizaar rules that RT make up. They could also highlight the complete nonsense of importing food that is grown with chemicals, plant breeding and medicines that British farmers are banned from using.
Yes if only... What would you call it, the National Union of Farmers, how does that sound, or the Judean people's front maybe?
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Ah, another RT thread.
Troll meister general Farmy stuey.......check. (y)
Livestock farmers that don't need RT to sell their produce telling arable farmers who's only market is assured grain merchants to ditch RT......check.(y)
Squabble over the origins of RT.....check. (y)

Yawn. f**king stuck with it. Get used to it. Pray any more new rules don't make the industry unsustainable. Roll on retirement.
 
Ah, another RT thread.
Troll meister general Farmy stuey.......check. (y)
Livestock farmers that don't need RT to sell their produce telling arable farmers who's only market is assured grain merchants to ditch RT......check.(y)
Squabble over the origins of RT.....check. (y)

Yawn. fudgeing stuck with it. Get used to it. Pray any more new rules don't make the industry unsustainable. Roll on retirement.
Or some bloke who sells one bullock and two sheep a year says nobody needs it.
 

Bairdy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Perth/Fife
While lorries have their own scheme, you avoided the point about trailers hauling others grain not requiring that persons number, and why does having your number on your trailer improve food safety ? All grain requires a passport this passport requires the list of the last three loads, it shows who the transport belongs too, no passport identifies the trailer nor does the number on the side, tell me how having my number on the trailer improves food safety or traceability.
The SQC passport anyway does ask for the hauliers trailer number. The vehicle reg number identifies the tractor unit not the actual trailer which can be swapped. It simply identifies the actual trailer used if any issue came up.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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