Red Tractor Fight, Campaign Resources

[Bruce Almighty]

Good luck with that …. “The ladies not for turning”

I'm sure you're right, but I just wondered if anyone knew her locally that had a chance to speak to her.
The only reason we haven't quit yet is because we want NFU discount on a pick up. DD is cancelled, I'm just waiting to pull the trigger.

 

[Barleymow]

I'm sure you're right, but I just wondered if anyone knew her locally that had a chance to speak to her.
The only reason we haven't quit yet is because we want NFU discount on a pick up. DD is cancelled, I'm just waiting to pull the trigger.

You can get similar discounts without the nfu some one on here will point you in the right direction if you ask

 

[An Gof]

Well I can't think of many logical reasons why we're all forced to be in RT, so you must be right (money), and probably DEFRA who use it as a way of the farmers to pay for their own inspections.

Bingo, you have it in one. It’s the Government's “Licence to farm” but by a different name.
The “Licence to Farm” the NFU was always opposed to ……. Until they created RT.

 

[Flat 10]

Bingo, you have it in one. It’s the Government's “Licence to farm” but by a different name.
The “Licence to Farm” the NFU was always opposed to ……. Until they created RT.

But it's "optional" dontcha know.....

 

[Minesapint]

I'm sure you're right, but I just wondered if anyone knew her locally that had a chance to speak to her.
The only reason we haven't quit yet is because we want NFU discount on a pick up. DD is cancelled, I'm just waiting to pull the trigger.

Join BASC, same discount and a lot cheaper than NFU membership!

 

[Simon C]

Read to the end about how the government. AHDB and Red Tractor are all mixed up together.

UK Red Tractor food label scheme accused of smear campaign in trade fight

Watchdog said animal welfare standards in New Zealand and Australia were lower than in Britain.

www.politico.eu

 

[Flat 10]

Read to the end about how the government. AHDB and Red Tractor are all mixed up together.

UK Red Tractor food label scheme accused of smear campaign in trade fight

Watchdog said animal welfare standards in New Zealand and Australia were lower than in Britain.

www.politico.eu

I think we knew that. RT shouldn’t need to criticise others to prove it’s worth. We know it’s a sham and adds absolutely nothing to most U.K. farmers.

 

[neilo]

RT claim that. How they can I don’t know
Everything else they say is lies

DEFRA and WAG both say that this is the case. That’s why there is a tick box (certainly on the Welsh forms) to indicate whether you are in an assurance scheme or not.

 

[Flat 10]

DEFRA and WAG both say that this is the case. That’s why there is a tick box (certainly on the Welsh forms) to indicate whether you are in an assurance scheme or not.

Not on ours

 

[Bury the Trash]

Test

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[B'o'B]

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I find it hard to believing they are a moderator!

 

[B'o'B]

normally its testing testing 1,2..3

And they are gone!!

 

[yorkshire8]

Can’t be arsed reading through this thread! The only way to change red tractor is to not pay and get out of it . We don’t need it and don’t have to pay a load of knobheads to tell us how to do our jobs!

 

[tullah]

RT and the non farming union are same as BBC having to continually tell us all what excellent value for money they are. We have our own Nadine Dorries on their case now.
All this woke nonsenses days are numbered and people are getting real.

 

[robbie]

This morning I had a missed call from my RT assessment man. I missed his call but when he rings back I really want to tell him not to bother coming to do my assessment as I'm not going to bother with RT. I have two decent tips which will take non assured grain all day long, they're a bit further away but still withing tractor and trailer distance.

The stumbling block is sugar beet, I'm struggling to find a way around that, is it possible to just be RT sugar beet assured??? The problem then is I would have to just through exactly the same hoops but for less.

Do I just tell him to stick it up his arse now and then rejoin later in the year just before beet season, if nothing else it Would put off having to endure the utter rubbish of the assessment for another year.

 

[colhonk]

Yes, do as you say

 

[robbie]

It's the sugar beet bit that's bothering me.

 

[BrianV]

Minette Batters had already claimed earlier in the year in the Farmers Weekly that the NFU did not own Red Tractor. A simple google proved her wrong. So she is possibly uninformed or wilfully misleading, either way it doesn't inspire confidence. Its no way to treat her members in my view.

Who We Are: The Red Tractor Team - Red Tractor Assurance

Red Tractor is a not-for-profit company created by farmers and industry leaders in 2000.

assurance.redtractor.org.uk

Now you may be able to claim that the NFU is not in control of RT and I would say to a large degree they are not, RT has morphed into its own kingdom but then again they do have owners who are supposed to hold them to account - one of whom is the NFU and its affiliate unions, another the British Retail Consortium and another the AHDB which farmers pay a compulsory levy to. People talk about the "unseen work" etc but actually having seen some evidence of this "unseen" work - it is very much us vs them then I don't want them to do any of the work thanks, I don't trust them.

Fundamentally its about laziness and arse covering. No one wants to rock the boat because they are all getting paid and the status quo is easier than change. But as farmers we need to continue to stand up for what is an ethical trading position and what is not.

People don't care if Red Tractor want to exist and do their thing. If they can get the marketplace to pay a premium all well and good, they and the NFU can have a love in on it all.

But what is not ethical is acting as a market blocker and using other quango's and trade affiliations to coalesce together to act against access to the marketplace. Red Tractor is using NFU people as a sort of Stalin's useful idiot technique to lend a bit of credibility to it all but it still stinks.

Red Tractor is no longer anything to do with the NFU other than it's stupid undying love of it, it is now owned by a multinational company SAI Global, a purely for profit organisation!

 

[Grass And Grain]

Red Tractor is no longer anything to do with the NFU other than it's stupid undying love of it, it is now owned by a multinational company SAI Global, a purely for profit organisation!

I don't think that's correct? There's a specific ownership board.

 

[spin cycle]

This morning I had a missed call from my RT assessment man. I missed his call but when he rings back I really want to tell him not to bother coming to do my assessment as I'm not going to bother with RT. I have two decent tips which will take non assured grain all day long, they're a bit further away but still withing tractor and trailer distance.

The stumbling block is sugar beet, I'm struggling to find a way around that, is it possible to just be RT sugar beet assured??? The problem then is I would have to just through exactly the same hoops but for less.

Do I just tell him to stick it up his arse now and then rejoin later in the year just before beet season, if nothing else it Would put off having to endure the utter rubbish of the assessment for another year.

ring bs and say you're terribly sorry but you are leaving RT and do they still want this years beet or should you grow them for stockfeed instead......next year drop the beet