Red Tractor liars

[Nearly]

Does anyone recognise any of the red tractor numbers?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

It's only partly traceable.

Put another way, if there was a problem with a bag of flour, how could you trace it?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Does anyone recognise any of the red tractor numbers?

I think it's possible to check up on the database.

 

[tullah]

It's only partly traceable.

Put another way, if there was a problem with a bag of flour, how could you trace it?

So contrary to what RT say, it's not traceable to the farm of origin if there's a problem.
I wouldn't want to be RT's shoes right now.
Since they've attempted to trace it then they might as well go the whole hog and tell us the farms addresses as they promise their shoppers, instead of being so vague. After all that's the whole purpose of RT, or so they say.
We want the farm..not the farms.

 

[Grass And Grain]

We want the farm..not the farms.

Yes, we want "wheat in this pack if from 3 farms - x,y amd z."

Not, "wheat in this pack could be from farms a,b,c...x,y,z - but we're not exaxtly certain which ones."

 

[ploughman1963]

But not 100% pasture based as can feed whole crop cereals.

Maybe it should be forage for life.


Can you please highlight where PFL exceeds organic standards.


Having a discussion myself with RT about major beef v minor beef with dairy.

They want me to pay for major beef for cull cows. Whereas I suggest it's a minor part of my operation and therefore should be included in my dairy assurance fee.

I have successfully argued this for the last 4-5 years and have only had to have minor beef

sorry for the aside

 

[Old Boar]

So is there a place I can look up a RT farm code? It occured to me that they could put any number and I would be none the wiser.

 

[texelburger]

So,in short,they cannot trace it from the farm of origin to the pack of flour.

 

[Courier]

While your all discussing fraud.
Regen agriculture now that another fraud.

No standards
No legal definition
Buzz word like vegan, sustainable

Don't forget to tell them about how you had massively damaged the environment for the past x number of years using a degenerative farming system

Perhaps you could point them in the direction of someone who has been always farming with nature rather than against it rather than jumping on the band wagon.

This brought back the “buzz word” of the day from the early ‘70s and my time at Writtle and the response from Ag. engineering lecturer Bill “Tuf” Butterworth,

“Conservation ? ? Conservation ballocks !”

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

So is there a place I can look up a RT farm code? It occured to me that they could put any number and I would be none the wiser.

Why bother? They have now admitted it's all put in a big bin, it's all farm assured (possibly, no way of telling), but that's it.

It's not traceable and their claims that it is are false .

 

[David.]

Encouraging to note that they are only using UK wheat though?
It would rather blow a hole through that reply if those membership numbers were found to be in any way lacking...
Of course RT have helped concoct that response, Tesco would chuck the problem back up the line. That is what FA is for.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Encouraging to note that they are only using UK wheat though?
It would rather blow a hole through that reply if those membership numbers were found to be in any way lacking...
Of course RT have helped concoct that response, Tesco would chuck the problem back up the line. That is what FA is for.

They say it's only uk wheat...

The dead tractor machine would have written the entire response, don't forget they are charging for the use of the sticker so it's a problem of their own making.

 

[Highland Mule]

Encouraging to note that they are only using UK wheat though?

It certainly doesn’t say that in their reply. It says it includes some U.K. produced, but doesn’t say only.

 

[David.]

Ironic smilie required please...
If there is actually any imported grain blended into that flour, then the whole reply is a fraud.

 

[Highland Mule]

Ironic smilie required please...
If there is actually any imported grain blended into that flour, then the whole reply is a fraud.

There could be 99% imported and that reply would still be truthful. Disingenuous, but truthful.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Yes, but they claim that only produce grown in the UK can have the sticker. So 1% imported would be nothing less than fraudulant.

 

[tullah]

It certainly doesn’t say that in their reply. It says it includes some U.K. produced, but doesn’t say only.

If the truth were known they just havent a clue where it's from and the whole reply was made up.
Just like the whole RT tick box exercise placed infront of us which our twelve year olds fill in for a small fee. Even her teacher was mightily impressed at the detailed project.

 

[tullah]

Needs an undercover reporter temporary employee at the mill intake. That would open peoples eyes.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If the truth were known they just havent a clue where it's from and the whole reply was made up.
Just like the whole RT tick box exercise placed infront of us which our twelve year olds fill in for a small fee. Even her teacher was mightily impressed at the detailed project.

You haven’t got a clue wether the reply was made up and certainly no wat of proving it.
Question is, could they prove what they have written?

 

[JimWilson]

Ironic smilie required please...
If there is actually any imported grain blended into that flour, then the whole reply is a fraud.

Could you DNA test the flour to determine the varieties ? If there are any non UK varieties....