Red Tractor - Mass Balance

[Steevo]

Just read about this new requirement for a calculation.

I’m not sure how they think farmers without a weighbridge will be able to estimate accurately the amount of crop that comes in from the field.

Is this them getting worried that farmers will start selling 10/20% as non-assured off the books and they want that squashed….?

 

[Pigless]

Or is it the AIC wanting accurate stocktakes of how much grain is on farm? So they can keep control of the pricing??

 

[teslacoils]

This is in no way to benefit the farmer member and as far as I can see not a legal requirement. I suggest the standard RT tool of just putting a number from the air in.....or leave.

 

[teslacoils]

Or is it the AIC wanting accurate stocktakes of how much grain is on farm? So they can keep control of the pricing??

It's this.

 

[Barleymow]

You might accidentally put the wrong figures in , far better telling red tractor where to go

 

[Pigless]

It's this.

Its like state control of agriculture, but the state is the AIC and the supermarkets who run Red Tractor while the NFU agree to it all!!

 

[fieldfarmer]

Do we think Russia with be filling in the same records,. " insider trading" springs to mind, no way can this be legal, traders with be buying abroad as soon as the ink is dry then waiting for the money to hit them.

 

[teslacoils]

If we all put

580.08

Then when they turn it upside down it will say boobs.

 

[teslacoils]

Presumably all their end users are going to tell us their input requirements, sticks held, and ledger purchases of grain for the year too?

 

[MrNoo]

It's to stop me selling all my milling wheat through another farm. What a bunch of little Hitlers, it's not a legal requirement and as said non of their business.

 

[JLLM]

Been doing this for our potatoes for a few years, totally made up figures, not been pulled up about it yet.

 

[fieldfarmer]

I wonder if this is the one rule that will break them if they were to stop me being assured for failing to give this information, I feel a farmer wide PPi type payout looming.

 

[4course]

years ago we stopped filling in the then june census as the results were released to the trade prior to the farmer , this then worked against the farmer as the trade had a good idea of what was in the ground and could estimate harvest tonnage . This is even worse and as such I will not be giving away sensitive financial information.

 

[D14]

Who actually fills any forms like this in accurately? I ever have and never will and happily make stuff up to put on stuff like this.

 

[e3120]

Purely for their own protection. We should all just declare million-tonne harvests with 99xxxx of spillages at the end.

 

[DRC]

They can’t even spell properly . What’s Quatities. Maybe @Bald Rick might know.
You can see where this is heading though . Can’t sell grain unless you can prove you’re carbon neutral.

 

[Phil P]

They can’t even spell properly . What’s Quatities. Maybe @Bald Rick might know.
You can see where this is heading though . Can’t sell grain unless you can prove you’re carbon neutral.

More like you can’t sell grain unless you can prove it’s yours! It will be to stop grain that hasn’t been grown on farm suddenly becoming assured as it passes through! Not that anyone would do such a thing.
But how long before you only get enough stickers for the amount of grain you say you have harvested or have in store. And if you have a bit of grain over it will be the Spanish Inquisition to see where it came from before you can sell it.

 

[teslacoils]

I always say one sheet of stickers will do....always get sent two.

 

[Phil P]

I always say one sheet of stickers will do....always get sent two.

Just wait till you have to start sending the unused ones back and they have to tally up with your tonnage on you balance sheet and loads that have gone out.

 

[Cowabunga]

It's to stop me selling all my milling wheat through another farm. What a bunch of little Hitlers, it's not a legal requirement and as said non of their business.

Indeed there are some sections of the dairy herd recording compliance form, which asks for milk yield per cow or overall and so on that I fill in with the words NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. I haven't even had a negative mention of it from my inspectors yet.