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makes a change from backstabbing lol
Red tractor statement on level playing field
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makes a change from backstabbing lol
SilliamWhale
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from the perspective of the miller, both imported and homegrown grain are assured, albeit under different schemes and in different ways
This is an odd statement.
You could argue that non RT UK milling wheat is also assured - albeit in a different way....
I'm grateful that the NFU, AIC and RT have seen the error of the unlevel playing field at last (something that farmers employed by Red Tractor have failed to be able to see to the extent to which one wonders what the point of their positions are (Guy and Blenky) however it still cannot sit right with any farmer that assurance must be compulsorily purchased via one company in the UK in order to access the marketplace - if you did that in corporate world you would be operating a cartel.
p.s. I thought it wasn't anything to with the NFU anyway?
This is an odd statement.
You could argue that non RT UK milling wheat is also assured - albeit in a different way....
I'm grateful that the NFU, AIC and RT have seen the error of the unlevel playing field at last (something that farmers employed by Red Tractor have failed to be able to see to the extent to which one wonders what the point of their positions are (Guy and Blenky) however it still cannot sit right with any farmer that assurance must be compulsorily purchased via one company in the UK in order to access the marketplace - if you did that in corporate world you would be operating a cartel.
p.s. I thought it wasn't anything to with the NFU anyway?
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Berluddy hellfire....
Red Tractor Backs "level Playing Field" For Uk Farmers Over Feed Grain Imports - Red Tractor Assurance
Red Tractor Backs "level Playing Field" For Uk Farmers Over Feed Grain Imports. Read this and our most recent stories on the Red Tractor Assurance website.assurance.redtractor.org.uk
Should be some pig shooting later this week, as they fly past the Blue Moon!
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- Devon
The statement from the UK flour millers includes;
"In short, the level of control and inspection applied to imported wheat is much higher than for UK Red Tractor assured grain, and there is consequently a heavier cost burden on imports. The cost of tests and certification alone are higher than the Red Tractor membership fee, but the suppliers still have the costs of demonstrating legal compliance, insurance and record keeping required for a defence of due diligence. Red Tractor certification and inspection means that these costs are avoided by UK growers, giving them a competitive advantage. Additionally, if the Red Tractor scheme was to be wound down it is likely that in today’s marketplace multiple schemes would be established, restricting UK growers’ ability to supply different end users unless they signed up to more than one scheme, with additional administration and audit burdens as a result."
So they are trying to support Red Tractor.
They also say
"When wheat arrives at a mill, it is tested for its quality (to ensure it meets the specification that the miller purchased) and for any food safety issues. A range of tests will be conducted at onsite laboratories."
Why is this necessary if it is all assured?.....
or why require assurance if it is going to be tested?
"In short, the level of control and inspection applied to imported wheat is much higher than for UK Red Tractor assured grain, and there is consequently a heavier cost burden on imports. The cost of tests and certification alone are higher than the Red Tractor membership fee, but the suppliers still have the costs of demonstrating legal compliance, insurance and record keeping required for a defence of due diligence. Red Tractor certification and inspection means that these costs are avoided by UK growers, giving them a competitive advantage. Additionally, if the Red Tractor scheme was to be wound down it is likely that in today’s marketplace multiple schemes would be established, restricting UK growers’ ability to supply different end users unless they signed up to more than one scheme, with additional administration and audit burdens as a result."
So they are trying to support Red Tractor.
They also say
"When wheat arrives at a mill, it is tested for its quality (to ensure it meets the specification that the miller purchased) and for any food safety issues. A range of tests will be conducted at onsite laboratories."
Why is this necessary if it is all assured?.....
or why require assurance if it is going to be tested?
tullah
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- Linconshire
I love it. The scoundrels are at last on the back foot and we can burn all those dead tractor files which don't mean anything anyway. Next stop is the compensation due to us all for having to cough up to the fraudsters who own RT and have given us all this unnecessary grief.
tullah
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- Linconshire
tullah
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- Location
- Linconshire
And it wasn't the non farming union who helped any of this change to come about. It was a handful of farmers who went out gathering support and did it all off their own bat under a great team leader.
Dont let the non farming union take the credit for what's been achieved.
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4course
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- north yorks
im sure or should be that all wheat was tested before rt existed so whats the point of rt or wasnt it tested and now the miller relies on rt ex farm . Which then implies rt grain should carry a hefty premium
But if you read it carefully they havent fallen out with each other, its smoke and mirrors.
What RT have said is we believe that uk farmers should be able to sell to feed mills via Femas, feed mills will agree to this to create a level playing field, they claim the testing to qualify for Femas will cost far more than the cost of RT.
How much feed grain is actually imported ? What actual testing is done and on what size samples ? What is the cost ? It's a con trick to make it look like RT and AIC are listening, no one will sign up to femas as they will make sure the cost is too high
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- Devon
^this
I see it as they have formed a tight circle with NFU, AIC, RT, UKFM, wagons.
I see it as they have formed a tight circle with NFU, AIC, RT, UKFM, wagons.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Sadly that’s how I read it. You deliver your non RT wheat to a feed mill under FEMAS regime …… and here’s a bill for £500 for the pesticide residue tests we had to do on it. Cor blimey, how much? Makes RT look cheap.
Is every load of imported wheat tested at input in to the mills , fkin doubt it
in which case the bus we are driving will kill the lot of them !
No doubt there will be a " peace in our time" photo shoot.
It needs to be and those on "our" side need to keep driving flat out, they are rattled time to press home our advantage and include milling grains.
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- Lincolnshire
Don’t know. They might take a dozen samples out of the boat so effectively sample every 4000 tonnes or so. But you can bet they’ll insist on sampling and testing your 29t lorry load when it rolls up and subjecting it to the same expensive tests they apply to a sample off the boat. There’s no need for this nonsense of course as if it’s grown in the U.K. you can’t use prohibited chemicals on it anyway. It’s just a ruse to give RT a leg up out of the hole.
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- Lincolnshire
Some kind of cartel-shaped circle? Really they should be engaging before the competition commission has to step in.
spin cycle
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- north norfolk
thats the weakness if they try it on re £500/load for 29t uk......i mean presumably the imported stuff arrives at mill via lorry so they'd need to test every one of those?
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- Lincolnshire
Number of extensive import tests failed? Might do a foi on that subject.
I assume once it's here , it's ours .