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[rob1]

Anyone else had a email from red tractor saying that they are on the horse meat case. Sent a reply asking why it had taken so long, why do we put up with these people ?

 

[caveman]

Why do you put up with them?

 

[Blue.]

Anyone else had a email from red tractor saying that they are on the horse meat case. Sent a reply asking why it had taken so long, why do we put up with these people ?

I've got the same this morn ,will reply asking the same.

 

[Blue.]

Why do you put up with them?

I have no option,my milk buyer won't take my milk without being farm assured.

 

[rob1]

I've got the same this morn ,will reply asking the same.

Would be a good idea if we all did these people need to realise WE pay THEIR wages

 

[bobk]

Anyone else had a email from red tractor saying that they are on the horse meat case. Sent a reply asking why it had taken so long, why do we put up with these people ?

Had the RT e mail and one from Tesco , w###ers the lot

 

[Filthyfarmer]

Your all in cloud cuckoo land if you think assurance is going away. It's going to get far more in the future.

 

[Tonka]

Lots of advertising in the media by Red Tractor today - Buy British, buy farm assured. About time, and "horsegate" can only do us good in the long run.

 

[Dave Applesquasher]

Your all in cloud cuckoo land if you think assurance is going away. It's going to get far more in the future.

How can it possibly go away, there are probably more people employed in the assurance sector than in actual farming.
They have a vested interest to keep it going and most likely will push for even more.

 

[rob1]

Your all in cloud cuckoo land if you think assurance is going away. It's going to get far more in the future.

Don't think anyone has said we want it to go away, well not on this thread, the point is why the hell has it taken then this long to react to the horse meat problem, if we all decide that it makes no difference to be farm assured and stop paying for it it will be their jobs that go, or are they all to arrogant to think that while they look over our shoulders to check up on us that they don't need to do theirs, I.E promote assured produce to the public

 

[Dave Applesquasher]

As they have convinced all of our customers that they must only buy off assured producers we don't have the option of not paying any more.

 

[Thick Farmer]

I gave up on farm assurance ages ago and pulled out of it for both grain and beef.

I'm still in business and reckon that I now have 4 spare days a year (1 day preparing for each test and 1 day doing each test).

That's 4 days work + the cost of being in farm assurance saved. Best part of £1000 by my calculations. Also don't have some tosser who failed as a farmer himself nosing around the place and passing judgement.

 

[rob1]

As they have convinced all of our customers that they must only buy off assured producers we don't have the option of not paying any more.

Didn't stop them buying the crap that has been shown up for what it is tho, perhaps now is the time to go on the offensive to get the public only to buy assured british food so the supermarkets can only buy assured, oh wait a minute just woke up, a large percentage of the public and most of the big firms don't give a monkeys they just buy on cost always have always will, at least my horsey clients buy because of the standard of service I provide

 

[Blue.]

Didn't stop them buying the crap that has been shown up for what it is tho, perhaps now is the time to go on the offensive to get the public only to buy assured british food so the supermarkets can only buy assured, oh wait a minute just woke up, a large percentage of the public and most of the big firms don't give a monkeys they just buy on cost always have always will, at least my horsey clients buy because of the standard of service I provide

Fa is just a facade for the supermarket to be seen as doing the right thing.

 

[Sid]

Has anyone seen the Ad from NFU /red tractor in the papers today? I've tried to search but can't find them!

Found an article

http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/farm...mpaign_in_wake_of_horsemeat_scandal_1_1935135

 

[gone up the hill]

Don't think anyone has said we want it to go away, well not on this thread, the point is why the hell has it taken then this long to react to the horse meat problem, if we all decide that it makes no difference to be farm assured and stop paying for it it will be their jobs that go, or are they all to arrogant to think that while they look over our shoulders to check up on us that they don't need to do theirs, I.E promote assured produce to the public

The reason it has taken them/the NFU so long to respond is because no one actually knows it products with the red tractor on them wont be caught up in the horse meat fiasco and they prob still cant be 100% sure either!!

If farm assurance is to have a place in food production in the future the following needs to happen :

1 : the scheme rules need to be cut back to no more than 20 points so its workable on farm ( as the amount of rules are getting out of hand ) and focus more on things like med records/ state of the housing etc and not rubbish like fencing around muck heaps for example!

2 : needs to be much better marketed to the general public and be shown to be given value for the cost of being in the scheme to farmers.

3 : it needs to be much more transparent how the food chain is assured beyond the farm gate to both farmers and the general public.

If no red tractor foods are shown to be caught up in the fiasco then they need to make the most of the golden egg that has been laid before them, if they dont then farm assurance is fhinshed..

 

[Filthyfarmer]

The reason it has taken them/the NFU so long to respond is because no one actually knows it products with the red tractor on them wont be caught up in the horse meat fiasco and they prob still cant be 100% sure either!!

If farm assurance is to have a place in food production in the future the following needs to happen :

1 : the scheme rules need to be cut back to no more than 20 points so its workable on farm ( as the amount of rules are getting out of hand ) and focus more on things like med records/ state of the housing etc and not rubbish like fencing around muck heaps for example!

2 : needs to be much better marketed to the general public and be shown to be given value for the cost of being in the scheme to farmers.

3 : it needs to be much more transparent how the food chain is assured beyond the farm gate to both farmers and the general public.

If no red tractor foods are shown to be caught up in the fiasco then they need to make the most of the golden egg that has been laid before them, if they dont then farm assurance is fhinshed..

Agree with above, especially the 1st paragraph.(probably what I meant to say in my previous post!)

When the dust settles though I can see that traceability and assurance will be a prerequisite for all. The big players who control the the vast proportion of the market along with the public will demand it.
It wouldn't surprise me if Defra took assurance "in house" in the near future.

 

[T C]

There was a bit on twitter about the complete silence from rt.
I have a real problem with the organisation that collects levies and audits our beef - QMS. Looking back through their twitter feed @qmscotland there is nothing informational about the horse scandal. Granted after I drew attention they posted multiple times the same pic last week. The weekly email has so far been devoid of any mention of it either.
I suppose they have a guaranteed income it is just our on farm investment, time and effort at stake.

 

[caveman]

What a load of twaddle.
If the FSA do their job properly, there is absolutely no need for assurance schemes.
Any scheme can only be as good as its police force.
Make the FSA fit for purpose.