Red tractor

[lazy farmer]

Think so I heard it on a teagasc podcast.

 

[lazy farmer]

‎The Dairy Edge on Apple Podcasts

‎Government · 2024

podcasts.apple.com

about 20 mins onwards
Also talks about increasing paper work to keep the edge Irish dairy products have.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Have you all done this?

 

[DairyNerd]

Dont want to sound ignorant but I spread AN this year, are there advantages to Urea from a grass growth (or other) point if view? Havn't ordered next years yet. Never had to buy my own fert before this year so wondering what people think?

 

[lazy farmer]

Dont want to sound ignorant but I spread AN this year, are there advantages to Urea from a grass growth (or other) point if view? Havn't ordered next years yet. Never had to buy my own fert before this year so wondering what people think?

It’s more acidic than urea based fert. We used to have to top up our Ph every few yrs when we used to use AN as we are on heavy clay that has a naturally lower Ph. Now we haven’t limed for 6-7 yrs. admittedly other things are different too. But I think not using AN is the main reason.

 

[Jamer]

It’s more acidic than urea based fert. We used to have to top up our Ph every few yrs when we used to use AN as we are on heavy clay that has a naturally lower Ph. Now we haven’t limed for 6-7 yrs. admittedly other things are different too. But I think not using AN is the main reason.

Surely your clays are naturally higher ph? We’re on Evesham clays and bordering too alkaline.

 

[Bruce Almighty]

It’s idiots that “chuck it on” with no rain or too much rain in sight that have caused regulation in the first place

I wouldn't say that is entirely true.
We use both AN and urea and I think urea is kinder to the environment.
In Australia they use urea not ammonium nitrate, the same in France Germany etc, warmer climates than ours.
CF wanted to get farmers to use their more expensive AN so presented their "dodgy evidence" to the government and conned them. Now CF have closed one of their fertiliser plants !

@Two Tone perhaps you could explain more about urea please?

 

[lazy farmer]

Surely your clays are naturally higher ph? We’re on Evesham clays and bordering too alkaline.

God I wish. It maybe the poor drainage/ decisions of the past but for mainly yrs when I first started farming we would apply lime to 5.5 they would rise to 6 and quickly return to 5.5 so we would repeat. Now the farm is stable between 6.3 and 6.7

 

[Spudley]

The pesticide registration was very straightforward.

 

[jerseycowsman]

So urea may volitalise and some may disappear into the atmosphere if applied in warm weather without rain imminent. But doesn’t AN leach out of the soil far more than urea based N?
Isn’t this 6 of of 1 and half a dozen of the other?
Plus AN is acidic and more harmful to soil biota than urea