Refuse to pay your TV licence fee - UK Agriculture Fight back

[fieldfarmer]

Did you mean "probably"?

This nonsense is typical of the farmer attitude, where the default response is to play the victim. Farmers are getting a bit of stick in all corners of the media circus right now, not just the BBC, because climate-change and other environmental concerns are currently flavour of the week with the tediously sanctimonious and the easily influenced. The BBC is merely reporting that which is relevant to current affairs, such as the UN publishing a report or the likes.

At the moment it's farming, a while back it was fossil fueled power stations, diesel cars before that and nuclear has had its share too. The green lobby will always have their sights set on someone.

Yeah, I meant " probably", I struggle with dyslexia but don't want to play the victim.

 

[Goweresque]

There needs to be a challenge to the wording for a tv licence , I believe its along the words " if you have a device that is capable of receiving BBC , if you watch it or not you have to pay." well I think with all the need to prove guilt these days they should be made to prove some one was watching un licenced.

Thats not correct. You have to BE watching live TV, not just have a device 'capable' of doing so, otherwise you'd need a TV licence to own a mobile phone, laptop or PC. If you do not watch any live as broadcast to the nation TV programs OR watch anything on iPlayer then you do not need a licence. Watch on demand streaming services or such as Youtube or Ch 4 On Demand does not need a licence, and the TV Licensing website is clear on that point, if you go looking for it.

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ33

The licensing laws are not fit for the modern age - in the age of multiple always connected communications devices and the internet, the concept of 'a TV licence' is a an anachronism, which is not surprising, it was introduced in 1946.

 

[Daniel]

I barely watch the BBC any more particularly the tedious wokeness of their current affairs output.

But occasionally they accidentally produce something excellent, like their recent documentary series on Maggie Thatcher, of blessed memory, so I expect I shall keep on paying the licence tax for a while yet.

 

[Goweresque]

I barely watch the BBC any more particularly the tedious wokeness of their current affairs output.

But occasionally they accidentally produce something excellent, like their recent documentary series on Maggie Thatcher, of blessed memory, so I expect I shall keep on paying the licence tax for a while yet.

You can find BBC programs on streaming sites that aren't iPlayer, if there's the odd bit of BBC output you want to watch. I enjoyed the first series of Fleabag for example, and was able to watch the entire second one without touching iPlayer.

 

[Clive]

I barely watch the BBC any more particularly the tedious wokeness of their current affairs output.

But occasionally they accidentally produce something excellent, like their recent documentary series on Maggie Thatcher, of blessed memory, so I expect I shall keep on paying the licence tax for a while yet.

I've just watched some of the excellent stuff they produce. Line if duty, Luther, Killing Eve ............................. all on Netflix and Prime which I pay for (I expect Netflix and Amazon paid the BBC fir them )

No one watches live TV these days other tan for the news and that really is no longer worth paying for on the BBC

 

[Henarar]

I've just watched some of the excellent stuff they produce. Line if duty, Luther, Killing Eve ............................. all on Netflix and Prime which I pay for (I expect Netflix and Amazon paid the BBC fir them )

No one watches live TV these days other tan for the news and that really is no longer worth paying for on the BBC

Yes they do

 

[Dry Rot]

@Clive, I think you should google 'incitement'...

I wondered when you'd turn up!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Need to get some badges sorted

 

[Clive]

Yes they do

i guess so if you don't have decent broadband

the moment you do though live TV is history, other than the news we have watched no live TV in our house for several years now. Not sure my kids even know what live TV is !!

 

[Dry Rot]

Thanks, it really pees me off that the one stop bereavement page, which is fine for notifying official bodies and the tax people, is allowed to give information about my mum's death to these racketeers. Increasingly with computerization, it seems that we are in danger of becoming guilty until proven innocent.

We are already. Think badgers. Think seizure of firearms. Lots more.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance".

 

[Northeastfarmer]

The bbc is an utter disgrace all they have on is bull sh!t and repeats

 

[farenheit]

When glyphosate was nearly banned: "we should trust the science!"

When global group of scientists release report critical of livestock farming: "it's establishment bias!"

 

[Treg]

Someone told me that the moon was made from cheese and that Christmas gifts were delivered by a mysterious man called Santa using special flying reindeer.

I seen him early one Christmas morning when I was on my way to milk the cows , he looked as though he'd had a hard night
My daughter was once given reindeer dust to show Santa where to land , she was having none of it & chucked it out the back door . Should have seen the look on her face the next morning when she seen the skid marks on the drive and damaged hedge.
NEVER ruin the magic , you may of been making a valid sarcastic remark but please don't bring Santa into it as there are all ages viewing this site.

 

[Henarar]

i guess so if you don't have decent broadband

the moment you do though live TV is history, other than the news we have watched no live TV in our house for several years now. Not sure my kids even know what live TV is !!

Clare occasionally watches stuff on her phone but apart from that we just watch the telly
And I we don't buy a licence anyway

 

[Gong Farmer]

I may be wrong, but isn't the problem here that the licence fee is charged by the Government. They then choose to give the revenue to the BBC. Not paying is like avoiding tax, it's a crime against the Government. Also, I don't think it's the BBC that enforces the licence, it's a subcontractor.

 

[Danllan]

I wondered when you'd turn up!

I am often lurking...

 

[Lazy Sod]

The trouble with a boycot is that all licences are renewed at different times of the year.

 

[farmerm]

It is time the TV licence was abolished, a form of (almost) compulsory taxation which costs low income households disproportionally more of their income than high earning households. The BBC should be a public good paid for from the public purse, but it then needs to act as a public good. The current BBC is far too big and far too an expensive entity. The BBC should have no right to pay excessive million pound plus salaries to presenters using tax payers money. If the commercial networks want to pay silly money for big name stars that is a business decision for them, it is not a game the BBC should partake in. There is a vast pool of very capable and willing young talent available that could replace the likes of Garry Lineker et al, a cost saving of many millions with very little change to the quality of output.

 

[wanton dwarf]

You can legally not pay the BBC Tax.

If you don't watch Live TV as it's broadcast.


I watch most of my entertainment on the internet which isn't LIVE - ie downloaded content like Youtube or Amazon, which also qualifies as not having to pay the BBC TV tax.


You'll get harrassed by a private company which prosecutes those who don't pay. Remember there is no such thing as a "Detector Van" .. but they can monitor what you are watching over the internet .. so DO NOT play fast an loose .. ensure you are not "Breaking the rules".

A few things you can do.

1) Fill in an online registration that you don't watch live TV and don't need a license .. you'll have to do this every 2 years.

2) DO NOT allow entry to your house by Capita to "See the equipment" - they have no right of entry without a court order.

3) Tell the Capita personnel you "Remove their implied right of access to your property". That means if they come uninvited onto your property again they are trespassing.


I've been license free for over 10 years now.

@Clive if you are serious about this then you need to setup an advice page everyone can add to so they don't get caught out.

 

[Goweresque]

So if you watch recorded TV say on your TV setbox .. no need for a license.

No, you do need a license to do that - you cannot record live programs as broadcast, then watch them back later without a licence. Recording them is the same (for licencing purposes) as watching them.