Register as a user of professional plant protection products (PPPs) and adjuvants
- Thread starter AT Aloss
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Not only will you need to register, but he will need to register you as well!
tullah
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- Location
- Linconshire
All the more reason for a farmers union.
A quick scan suggests that HSE want to know where on farm chemical stores are, who is applying them, and where the records are kept.
I think they can currently if they wanted to, pitch up and ask to see the store and records at any time already, can't they.
Is this just a tidying up exercise, or more likely to be subject to more and better targeted checks in future?
I think they can currently if they wanted to, pitch up and ask to see the store and records at any time already, can't they.
Is this just a tidying up exercise, or more likely to be subject to more and better targeted checks in future?
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I thought the voluntary initiative is a scheme set up to avoid a pesticide tax?
it's a compulsory requirement of Red Tractor - it runs NROSO which is a register of sprayer operators, if we have this government register why do we need NROSO any longer ?
I see no reason why RT could justify a operator needing to be registered twice and the government free scheme is the higher authority so this is the end of NROSO surely ?
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
NRoSO is all part of the VI initiative. Same bit of legislation as PA1 etc, sprayer testing etc. All came in place to ensure responsible use of pesticide and hopefully avoid a pesticide tax as a way of forcing responsible use. There is a clear distinction between in and Red Tractor “enforcing” it.
I personally have no issue with Red Tractor or SQC policing these things as long as it’s current legislation and prevents duplicate visits from HSE, EA, gov departments.
I do however share your views on the other red tape that is being thrust upon us etc.
We just have to mindful that doing away with audit bodies completely could end up with another whole world of pain from government organisations.
Farmer Wally
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
How long will the government scheme be free.?
Once they have enough numbers they’ll charge to go on a course like the did with lorry drivers and the CPC scheme
Once they have enough numbers they’ll charge to go on a course like the did with lorry drivers and the CPC scheme
- Location
- East yorks
Is it just me that gets all these other gov depts rocking up then despite being in red tractor?
where is there any logic in the needs for a sprayer operator to need to pay to register with NROSO as well as register with the government ? surely we can all drop NROSO along with its costs now ?
I would rather be policed by an elected government than a commercial, company with no right of appeal any day !
.......... whichever ww choose we certainly do not need both !
Regrettably NRoSO is there to demonstrate spray operators CPD.
Spray operator CPD is in legislation, which there would be many ways to demonstrate to meet the legal requirement. However as RT require NRoSO and won't accept any other way of CPD being demonstrated, so we are stuck with NRoSO as long as RT require it.
This new registration seems to be more about collecting data on quantities of pesticide used and chemical store locations. Brand spanking new shiny gold plated red tape!
how can nroso be the only recognised CPD ?
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
I accept there is no need for both but I have no more faith in any elected government than nroso tbh. (ie. zero faith in case there is any doubt)
Because Red Tractor say so! Absolutely no other reason.
so a commercial company dictates who we have to pay our money to
this is all so very wrong and a situation that should never have been created
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Different goals. One is tasked with ensuring good practice when applying through cpd, the other in making the legislation surrounding it. I would imagine the register is HSE looking at pesticide use and trying to get a handle on what’s happening ahead of any new legislation coming our way.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Legislation? Let's hope our friendly helpful union will fight that. Although more likely thry will suggest a way to police it via their pet project. Trebles all round.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Precisely. It’s civil servants in quangos that cause half the trouble and they aren’t elected at all.