Reliable and 'cheap' telehandlers?

bobk

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Location
stafford
Possibly not cheap junk just built for a different market, back up will be next to zero in the UK with no common branded parts used on any of these and some probably dont even meet UK emission regs i bet. They are also ugly.

Its tempting but i don't know anyone that has actually bought one despite over the last few years many saying things like "Still cant go too badly wrong at that money" and "Id chance 1" 🤷‍♂️

Would i chance one? NO
Buy 2 , see which breaks down first , use it for spares
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
One on Facebook at the moment 540 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/560482834987005/

I think looks decent machine, and a couple of cats (know nothing about them) but look good value?

couple bolts missing there on the thermostat housing 🧐:ROFLMAO: Also the trouble with them old dash board hour clocks is they lack digits!
Seen a few of these clocks get to 9999hrs then magically go back to zero and start again:ROFLMAO: Not saying this is one of them but its always a possibly with these old dashes, sadly the next hour clock they use was a VDO same as older manitou and they just pack up randomly ever few thousand hrs:X3:



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HDAV

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couple bolts missing there on the thermostat housing 🧐:ROFLMAO: Also the trouble with them old dash board hour clocks is they lack digits!
Seen a few of these clocks get to 9999hrs then magically go back to zero and start again:ROFLMAO: Not saying this is one of them but its always a possibly with these old dashes, sadly the next hour clock they use was a VDO same as older manitou and they just pack up randomly ever few thousand hrs:X3:



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As I said I know nothing about them would this be better? Less risk? Parts prices vhigh?
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
A good 530-70 is a very reliable loader even at 20 years old, I bought mine two years ago with 4500 hrs for €21 k pictured below
We have a 2001 version like that (though tidier!) with 11700hrs under its belt. Simple reliable loader. We rebuilt the engine three years ago, and it only does about 300hrs a year now, but it's invaluable for what it does. JCB pre 2004 was very good. Avoid 2005-2016!
 

Lakes Nash

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South lakes
We’ve an old 525 67, never fails to start, Perkins engine, just had 2k spent on it, brakes and an odd pipe n pin, had a 535 95 with legs absaloute gutless, clutch probs, nicer to drive, more plush so we sold it and still use the old girl,
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
As I said I know nothing about them would this be better? Less risk? Parts prices vhigh?

Well that's not remotely in the same category of machine IMO, its a 13ish metre lift big heavy and clumsy farm work. its a had a rough paint job (not even the correct colour and genuine cat paint is actually cheap in 5litre cans) and the boom has had some serious bodgery plates welded on it.

Edit oh and there is no AUX pipes on it so its had problems inside the boom and they have removed them and not refitted cause it would have had them from factory.
 

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HDAV

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Well that's not remotely in the same category of machine IMO, its a 13ish metre lift big heavy and clumsy farm work. its a had a rough paint job (not even the correct colour and genuine cat paint is actually cheap in 5litre cans) and the boom has had some serious bodgery plates welded on it.

Edit oh and there is no AUX pipes on it so its had problems inside the boom and they have removed them and not refitted cause it would have had them from factory.
I noticed the paint job, in general are the cat machines as good as the jcb? Better? There are a few merlos around the same price
 

smcapstick

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Location
Kirkby Lonsdale
Sub-£20k (or even £15k) the name on the bonnet starts to be somewhat immaterial. Condition is king.

Go and try them. If the feel ‘right’, they generally are.

Ignore the ‘you can’t get bits for these’ brigade, too. There are very few proprietary serviceable parts on any machine like a Matbro, Sanderson etc so pretty much everything is available somewhere. You just need to go off-piste in your search.
 

ewald

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Arable Farmer
Location
Mid-Lincs
Sub-£20k (or even £15k) the name on the bonnet starts to be somewhat immaterial. Condition is king.

Go and try them. If the feel ‘right’, they generally are.

Ignore the ‘you can’t get bits for these’ brigade, too. There are very few proprietary serviceable parts on any machine like a Matbro, Sanderson etc so pretty much everything is available somewhere. You just need to go off-piste in your search.
Agree about the parts - have been running Sanderson telehandlers for some years - most things are still available, as they were largely built from the parts bins of other manufacturers. I believe Matbro were similar.

(Except the Speedshift gearbox - that would be a problem!)
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
Sub-£20k (or even £15k) the name on the bonnet starts to be somewhat immaterial. Condition is king.

Go and try them. If the feel ‘right’, they generally are.

Ignore the ‘you can’t get bits for these’ brigade, too. There are very few proprietary serviceable parts on any machine like a Matbro, Sanderson etc so pretty much everything is available somewhere. You just need to go off-piste in your search.

The first part I agree with but your wrong on the second part, there are more and more of 90's telehandler parts of all brands fast becoming no longer available as the manufacturer of the part has stopped making them.

Earlier this month I wanted to buy the steel brake plates either side of the friction on the carraro axles of matbro/sanderson and old manitous.
There now obsolete carraro stopped making them, only stock I could find was manitou and they only had 1 of each. Fortunately only needed one of each to do job.

There are many more examples like this, it's no longer viable for manufacturers to make some of these parts. There will be breakers about but even matbro and Sanderson in breakers yards are dwindling as they're simply not so viable to break for parts as people moved on and got newer stuff.
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
I noticed the paint job, in general are the cat machines as good as the jcb? Better? There are a few merlos around the same price

I'm not a great fan of them imo but for some they are well suited. They have good and bad points like all brands.

Finnings are not the most helpful of people with providing info and often ridiculous on cost of parts.
 

eulb

Member
The first part I agree with but your wrong on the second part, there are more and more of 90's telehandler parts of all brands fast becoming no longer available as the manufacturer of the part has stopped making them.

Earlier this month I wanted to buy the steel brake plates either side of the friction on the carraro axles of matbro/sanderson and old manitous.
There now obsolete carraro stopped making them, only stock I could find was manitou and they only had 1 of each. Fortunately only needed one of each to do job.

There are many more examples like this, it's no longer viable for manufacturers to make some of these parts. There will be breakers about but even matbro and Sanderson in breakers yards are dwindling as they're simply not so viable to break for parts as people moved on and got newer stuff.
And this is why the JCB wins,axles and brakes shared with 3cx diggers etc
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
And this is why the JCB wins,axles and brakes shared with 3cx diggers etc

The carraro axles I'm on about were fitted to allsorts of stuff so common as muck back in the 90's.

There are jcb parts obsolete aswell but yes not quite so bad and there are far more breakers around and aftermarket parts options.
 

Farmer_Joe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
Builder I used to work for had an extremely similar machine to the CAT above v reg with feet, great site machine but they are massive vs a farm machine and extremely heavy /numb / poor visibility and thirsty. You would genuinely be better off with a tractor and loader I suspect. Great for lifting roof trusses on not so good for farming :D
 
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