Remaining is better than Mrs Mays deal
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Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Wouldnt matter if it were, the vote was out so out we go.
The Commons won't vote for no deal . so what do they do ?
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
No idea, shame they play with folks lives.
The leader has to change then , problem is there's no support for Rees Mogg .
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
His own constituency voted 59.5% remain. Does not inspire.
I'm still waiting for a live interview from him , everything seems to be staged .... maybe not as smart as he thinks .
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Stop sending the money, stop everything, its Tuesday, they wil be begging us by friday , if not well fek them, do our own thing, no deals need to be done, STOP THE MONEY AND CONTROL IMMIGRATION, proper border in NI like the one we will have , and if they dont like it tough.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Hes a pr*ck like the rest of them they are all pricks justifying their existence 3/4 of them are not needed.
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- North Notts
The financial or political situation hasn't improved in European countries over the last couple of years, subsides as we knew them were coming to an end anyway, the EU commission has proved they are just as intransigent as ever, so why would any one want to remain.
M-J-G
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We are in the sh!t now, too late for questions, we are under the wing of the Dragon, and cold and all as it is, it was the people's choice to do this, so we've got to tolerate it.
The time for questions such as the one in the OP, passed a long way back.
We took a vote and now something that some claim as unforseen has happened.
A twist in politics, never!
The time for questions such as the one in the OP, passed a long way back.
We took a vote and now something that some claim as unforseen has happened.
A twist in politics, never!
Hindsight
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Oh ffs
Has she - or was it inevitable. What do you plan instead?
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Looking at it from the point of view of trade, standardisation and keeping hindrance of movement of goods, money and people to a minimum, then staying in is the most sensible option.
I don't have a problem at all with low, medium or highly skilled immigrants being here. They work hard, contribute to the economy and do a lot of stuff that the natives just won't do. I even consider the term immigrant to be bad manners. Fundamentally, why do we have any more right to be here than somebody from Poland? Just because we are born here doesn't in my view give us some automatic entitlement. It isn't something we ourselves have done (being born) actively but passively.
The whole "Britishness" thing is nonsense. The who patriotism, nationalism thing is nonsense.
So why can't we accept that the world has changed, stay in the EU and continue the progress that has been made over the last 40 years, not turn the clock back to nationalism, isolationism, prejudice and frankly racism.
I don't have a problem at all with low, medium or highly skilled immigrants being here. They work hard, contribute to the economy and do a lot of stuff that the natives just won't do. I even consider the term immigrant to be bad manners. Fundamentally, why do we have any more right to be here than somebody from Poland? Just because we are born here doesn't in my view give us some automatic entitlement. It isn't something we ourselves have done (being born) actively but passively.
The whole "Britishness" thing is nonsense. The who patriotism, nationalism thing is nonsense.
So why can't we accept that the world has changed, stay in the EU and continue the progress that has been made over the last 40 years, not turn the clock back to nationalism, isolationism, prejudice and frankly racism.
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- Lincolnshire
And the problem is now we are stuck in a situation of misguided political dogma and also political opportunism. Labour should be offering an alternative but they aren't, yet they are happy to wreck the only option on the table at the moment. That is completely irresponsible.
In business you might come up with an idea. You test it out by doing market research and forward planning such as cashflow forecasts. If you find it to be unworkable you generally ditch it. This is the big difference between politicians and business people. The politicians can't or won't react to changing information. They won't change course as they believe the electorate will feel betrayed, so they will hit the iceberg and take us all down.
IMO, false information, playing to the worst prejudices of the people got us into this mess. We could learn from it and easily et ourselves out of it by staying in the EU. But for all the wrong reasons the first mistake will be compounded and made 10 times worse due to the political self interest and general low intelligence our of politicians.
It's a no brainer IMO. Stay in.
In business you might come up with an idea. You test it out by doing market research and forward planning such as cashflow forecasts. If you find it to be unworkable you generally ditch it. This is the big difference between politicians and business people. The politicians can't or won't react to changing information. They won't change course as they believe the electorate will feel betrayed, so they will hit the iceberg and take us all down.
IMO, false information, playing to the worst prejudices of the people got us into this mess. We could learn from it and easily et ourselves out of it by staying in the EU. But for all the wrong reasons the first mistake will be compounded and made 10 times worse due to the political self interest and general low intelligence our of politicians.
It's a no brainer IMO. Stay in.
A holiday . anyway the question is ..... why did Rees Mogg et al nominate a remain PM after the voters decided to leave ?
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- Lincolnshire
Ultimately though we get the politicians we deserve and we will get the deal we deserve.
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- East Sussex
Don’t venture into this tetchy and dark corner of the forum much!
Is Mays ‘deal’ any different than remaining anyway?
Is Mays ‘deal’ any different than remaining anyway?
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- Northumberland
I think Hammond and May have done the cashflow forecasts,and that is why she has come up with the deal she has.Trying to keep the frictionless trade going,and at the same time saying over and over that we have got our borders back,out the ECJ,etc etc.
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- Northumberland
She wasnt really a remainer,she just sat on the fence.
if bitishness is nonsense,
what about the eu patriotism as espoused by tusk,juncker et all?
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