Remember when i was ridiculed for "Food Security" claims?

[Bossfarmer]

Food security my fudge- no one is eating any more than they did 3 weeks ago. Absolute joke, Covid-19 hits and guess what, the answer is more subsidies is it?

are you sure? not much else to do in their houses, if you had your way the uk would only be around 20% self sufficient just now, countries are starting to look at stopping exports now and who can blame them

 

[tepapa]

I don’t think it will be forgotten as quick as everyone thinks. It has scared people this disaster. People are very anxious.

People have short memories.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Oh FFS. You still really don't get it The disruption has been the supply chain and buying habits, not production.

we are at this moment relying on ships coming in and countries not banning exports, good situation to be in?

 

[mwj]

There is not a shortage of food as a total. The lack of your favorite salad greens and tomatoes does not make it a famine. Wants and needs are two very different things.

 

[Bossfarmer]

So demand increases by 400% over 2 weeks @Bossfarmer, can you increase your output by 400% in the same timescale?
The answer is no.
There has been massive panic buying for reasons that are fairly understandable, many people now only buy 1 or 2 days of food at a time but are now being told they may need to self isolate for 2 weeks and so are filling their cupboards to account for this which has broken the supply chain. Give it a week and the supermarket shelves will be full and there will be a drop in demand as people will have run out of cupboard space to store food.

of course not which is why the country should be producing an excess to allow for any supply issues and not a deficit, IF a global shortage were to occur for whatever reason be it weather or disease we have had a glimpse into how the public will react!

 

[Bossfarmer]

Just pointing out that temporary loss of cream sales isn't the major problem that some are currently making it out to be.
I wouldn't say it's "a hell of a lot more" margin wise either. Food service is a tiny percentage of the overall market and very competitive as well. Lots of deliveries of a few litres per drop is not cheap.

People need to think about the probable shortages/price increases as other countries put the block on exports.

some on here dont believe a shortage could ever occur

 

[andybk]

Food security my fudge- no one is eating any more than they did 3 weeks ago. Absolute joke, Covid-19 hits and guess what, the answer is more subsidies is it?

we never wanted subsidies , just give us a decent % of the amount spent on food , we are primary producers and over 95% is taken by everyone else , the retail message has always been "we are the cheapest" and we as farmers are paying for it !

 

[ollandroverman]

You really are something @Bossfarmer.....
In the middle of one of the biggest crisis the whole world has ever seen, and you are whining about your self entitlement to a bigger subsidy cheque!

 

[Bossfarmer]

You really are something @Bossfarmer.....
In the middle of one of the biggest crisis the whole world has ever seen, and you are whining about your entitlement to your subsidy cheque!

should i not be pointing out WHY food security is an issue in these times? or does this not suit your agenda?

 

[Dead Rabbits]

wouldnt be so sure and theres a long way to go yet, the point is had it not been for supporting farmers across the world to produce a surplus of food things would be 1000 times worse

But I am sure. There is no shortage of food. It’s all infrastructure related lapses. I understand you believe that you are owed something because you won the genetic lottery and was born in a first world country. This does not change the fact that you are wrong. We ain’t short of food.

 

[B'o'B]

of course not which is why the country should be producing an excess to allow for any supply issues and not a deficit, IF a global shortage were to occur for whatever reason be it weather or disease we have had a glimpse into how the public will react!

We already produce an excess. 30% of food purchases go in the bin. Stop that and you need to drop production. You need to get out more.

 

[Bossfarmer]

We already produce an excess. 30% of food purchases go in the bin. Stop that and you need to drop production. You need to get out more.

is that going to stop though this is just general consumer behaviour? if anything more will be wasted than ever this month

 

[Bossfarmer]

But I am sure. There is no shortage of food. It’s all infrastructure related lapses. I understand you believe that you are owed something because you won the genetic lottery and was born in a first world country. This does not change the fact that you are wrong. We ain’t short of food.

no were not, thanks to the subsidy system!

 

[Bossfarmer]

Governments must resist calls from some quarters to protect their own food supply by restricting exports, he said, as some have begun to do.

Kazakhstan, for instance, according to a report from Bloomberg, has banned exports of wheat flour, of which it is one of the world’s biggest sources, as well as restrictions on buckwheat and vegetables including onions, carrots and potatoes. Vietnam, the world’s third biggest rice exporter, has temporarily suspended rice export contracts. Russia, the world’s biggest wheat exporter, may also threaten to restrict exports, as it has done before

 

[ollandroverman]

should i not be pointing out WHY food security is an issue in these times? or does this not suit your agenda?

I have buissines both in and outside of farming.
The only one with an agenda is you.

 

[Bossfarmer]

I have buissines both in and outside of farming.
The only one with an agenda is you.

the same as all farmers... to make money, what a surprise

 

[ollandroverman]

Governments must resist calls from some quarters to protect their own food supply by restricting exports, he said, as some have begun to do.

Kazakhstan, for instance, according to a report from Bloomberg, has banned exports of wheat flour, of which it is one of the world’s biggest sources, as well as restrictions on buckwheat and vegetables including onions, carrots and potatoes. Vietnam, the world’s third biggest rice exporter, has temporarily suspended rice export contracts. Russia, the world’s biggest wheat exporter, may also threaten to restrict exports, as it has done before

So that means there will be Increased demand for local produced seasonal foods from our country....
prices will rise and as an industry it could well be argued we need less subsidy!

 

[ajd132]

oh my god

 

[Hampton]

We already produce an excess. 30% of food purchases go in the bin. Stop that and you need to drop production. You need to get out more.

It’s why the best place for all this food produced at the moment is in customers freezers. I want the supermarkets to be full of beef and lamb (the so called Brexit beef that was claimed to be in storage) and selling it to shoppers.
If it’s in customers freezers, in a few months they will forget all about it and then throw it away next year. If it’s in processors chillers and freezers then it will be efficiently placed with customers who can make best use of it.
Get it sold to the masses!

 

[GeorgeK]

It's early days yet, production could still be harmed especially for labour intensive jobs like fruit and veg where distancing rules and staff shortages could make it near impossible to get the stuff harvested. It all depends on whether the virus can be controlled and how bad it gets