Rent per acre for ground solar?

I think lee is a little mixed up with his post.
£100,000 per meg is what he would have been told. 1 meg on 5 acres approx.
So that is about the same as Exfarmers £19,898 acre. Gross output.
In my post I worked out approx £9,000 of costs rent included.
So there is still another £10 K to cover finance.
So plenty in it if you take the risk it seems.
10/11K acre for rent & Finance.
Am I in the right ball park ???

Not sure I'm mixed up Fully aware of the potential profitability of such a system!
 

Nickl

New Member
Honest John, do you think farmers with solar would be interested in turning the rental income they receive into capital? By selling the rent to a bank (or similar)?
 
With recent changes from the Government, anyone who thinks they can rent land out for PV for more than £1000 / acre is either superbly confident or has been getting to much sun - based on today's market.

factors mentioned before like grid and planning all have an impact on what the rent will be but anything over a £1000 now is highly unlikely. The bulk of projects agents talk about never get through planning or obtain grid, I wonder how many projects have got farmers all excited then fallen flat at the first hurdle, I have seen countless go in for screening options etc but never materialise, the networks are jam packed full and have no capacity for more. planned upgrades takes years and costs £millions.

They don't call it the Solar Coaster for nothing and my god is that true with the big schemes!!
 

Tropical

Member
Location
Carmarthenshire
Just wondering is there anything wrong with me putting my own 40 panels in my land to sell to the grid? 40 panels is not alot, but ca i do this? or do i need permission for a small system?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Just wondering is there anything wrong with me putting my own 40 panels in my land to sell to the grid? 40 panels is not alot, but ca i do this? or do i need permission for a small system?
You can but for what?
It certainly will not pay at todays FIT rate and about 4.4 pence for the export.
If you can use all the power it will wipe its eye
 

Tropical

Member
Location
Carmarthenshire
You can but for what?
It certainly will not pay at todays FIT rate and about 4.4 pence for the export.
If you can use all the power it will wipe its eye
Yes for sure, I am not after the grid money, I will need all the power, I use alot of water pumps, and would need more than I could produce, Just thought of reducing the bill,
My monthly bill is around 600 to 700 pounds,
 

Tim92

New Member
Hi there i am new to this forum. Does anybody have a guide price of rent per acre that should be considered by private ltd. Solar company. We have been approached and are being offered a contract for 25-30 years for a 5 mega watt site to be put on 25 acres of our land. We are located in central scotland and if anyone else has a solar farm with experiance and knowledge on this matter we would love to hear your opinions and rough income , pros cons etc of a site like this. Many thanks Tim
 

rollestonpark

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Burton on trent
It was £1000 per acre, however given the tariffs are dropping, must be under that now days. Not sure by how much, but certainly a couple of £100 I would have thought, maybe more.
Chris
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Yup, started around £1500 or maybe even more, ours was negotiated at £1100 and now no subs they have mentioned £600, the funny thing being that the business rates payable would be more than the actual rent at those figures. I have and will stand firm at £750 here.
Although I would be careful as there is some talk that Solar and on shore wind may get a chance of CFD style auctions or some other type of help due to the decimation of the industry, be no point signing on the dotted line for £500/acre and then 2 years down the line find out that they are getting £55-65 MWh, would think there should be a clause stating that if that's the case then you get a % increase in the rent.
I have found that some can be very very slippery despite being from well known large companies so my advice would be to talk to some specialist to ensure that every avenue is looked into and covered, I know it's hard to tell what is likely to happen in the future but some 2nd guessing wouldn't go amiss.
 
Get a good agent - I can recommend one that got ours through.

Yes they are slippery. Get in the contact a bonus related to output as well as a base rent. Try and get them to give you right to first refusal on ground maintenance too.

They will trash any land drains you have and make a mess of your farm for the few months it takes to build but, it's an income you are unlikely to get from Farming and opens up door to other option in due course.

Try and get one leg arrays, easier to top and graze sheep under.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Any up to date rental figures for solar & battery storage?
Surprisingly just been approached by a firm , I suppose it's the battery backup their more interested in? As thought solar farm building had gone quiet?
 

Honest john

Member
Location
Fenland
Any up to date rental figures for solar & battery storage?
Surprisingly just been approached by a firm , I suppose it's the battery backup their more interested in? As thought solar farm building had gone quiet?

We are up for Battery backup, for 15 meg so interested, PM if it’s better for you.
Regards
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
We are up for Battery backup, for 15 meg so interested, PM if it’s better for you.
Regards
Firm have approached me to do the whole lot , solar with battery backup and lease the land.
Do you mean you'd be interested in doing similar or that you would be interested in supplying the battery back up?
Not rang them with a answer yet but I'm looking at it that is just a different type of crop & harvesting the sun.
 
Yup, started around £1500 or maybe even more, ours was negotiated at £1100 and now no subs they have mentioned £600, the funny thing being that the business rates payable would be more than the actual rent at those figures. I have and will stand firm at £750 here.
Although I would be careful as there is some talk that Solar and on shore wind may get a chance of CFD style auctions or some other type of help due to the decimation of the industry, be no point signing on the dotted line for £500/acre and then 2 years down the line find out that they are getting £55-65 MWh, would think there should be a clause stating that if that's the case then you get a % increase in the rent.
I have found that some can be very very slippery despite being from well known large companies so my advice would be to talk to some specialist to ensure that every avenue is looked into and covered, I know it's hard to tell what is likely to happen in the future but some 2nd guessing wouldn't go amiss.

Any luck with yours yet?
 

Honest john

Member
Location
Fenland
Firm have approached me to do the whole lot , solar with battery backup and lease the land.
Do you mean you'd be interested in doing similar or that you would be interested in supplying the battery back up?
Not rang them with a answer yet but I'm looking at it that is just a different type of crop & harvesting the sun.

What I am saying is we have 15 meg of production on the farm.

So would like to add battery, so i am interested in your progress with this.
 

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