replacement needs going forward

I thats it

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What are peoples thoughts on heifer replacement availability going forward? we've used a lot of dairy semen including sexed, and with good cull prices we've improved the herd quite dramatically this last couple of years. Wondering if we should start using a lot more beef semen with beef calf, stirk and store prices being so good and if you're not fussy dairy replacements aren't that expensive.
couple of auctioneers this way say there looks to be plenty of dairy stock about going forward
 

upnortheast

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Livestock Farmer
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Northumberland
Just had this conversation with son. He was at a big farm yesterday who had used all sexed for a couple of years . The place was awash with heifers. Is the market about to be flooded with calved heifers. Will it be like Norway where you see very few cows over 3rd calf. Guess a lot will depend on the cull cow trade
 

Farmer Keith

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North Cumbria
Just had this conversation with son. He was at a big farm yesterday who had used all sexed for a couple of years . The place was awash with heifers. Is the market about to be flooded with calved heifers. Will it be like Norway where you see very few cows over 3rd calf. Guess a lot will depend on the cull cow trade
Surely that’s not the way to go, it’s your 3/4/5 lactation cows that really drive production.
 

Jdunn55

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Surely that’s not the way to go, it’s your 3/4/5 lactation cows that really drive production.
Not to mention the fact that they are (in theory) your best cows

Just finished doing my heifer rearing sums last week, £1420 to rear a heifer properly, not worth rearing heifers to sell as bulling, in-calf or fresh imo especially as like you say the beef price is good
I'm thinking I'll want to cull 10% each year due to age/health issues/underperformance etc and then another 5% won't get in-calf in time so 15% needed BUT
I'm going to aim to rear 25% purely for the risk of tb, and it would mean I can expand quickly should land/infrastructure etc become available at the right place at the right time
 

Jdunn55

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Agree with you
During a trip to Norway a few years ago I worked out how they have these impressive health traits. The cull price was so good , heifers were replacing young cows so not many cows about over 3 rd
That tells me their health traits are actually rubbish then, in my mind, in order to have good health traits, you need healthy cows who last, if they're quitting after their 3rd then they're not healthy!
 

sidjon

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EXMOOR
Surely that’s not the way to go, it’s your 3/4/5 lactation cows that really drive production.

Absolutely the carbon footprint of that would be hideous
Is not uk average 3 lactation any ways now? Talking to someone about it the other day where some autumn blocks where very high % heifers, as sold on as MT or late calving cows who didn't calf within first three weeks.
 

pappuller

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Livestock Farmer
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M6 Hard shoulder
Not to mention the fact that they are (in theory) your best cows

Just finished doing my heifer rearing sums last week, £1420 to rear a heifer properly, not worth rearing heifers to sell as bulling, in-calf or fresh imo especially as like you say the beef price is good
I'm thinking I'll want to cull 10% each year due to age/health issues/underperformance etc and then another 5% won't get in-calf in time so 15% needed BUT
I'm going to aim to rear 25% purely for the risk of tb, and it would mean I can expand quickly should land/infrastructure etc become available at the right place at the right time
I've bought 26 ic holstein heifers due nov/April all ic to sexed or AA, strong holstein types Av £997
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

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