responsibility for livestock?

bluebell

Member
it might sound rather a naive question but if you are selling cattle at a livestock market and using a livestock haulier to transport cattle to market, what would happen if say an animal is injured during transport or at the market, , its thankgod never happened to,me,, but once said cattle have left my farm and care, who is responsible and has anyone any stories to tell of their experiences both good and bad
 

bluebell

Member
years ago when i used to haul my own cattle to local mart i had NFU insurance for the ivor williams cattle trailer which covered both trailer and livestock in transit, i think it was an addtional twentyfive pounds from memory
 
Pretty sure the Haulier and the Market will both be insured, as said above you can insure your own vehicle.
This is from our local market, however I agree that the haulier will be covered until unloading , and think its strange that the vendor is still responsible for the animal even when being moved / driven by a market employee.
18 Responsibility for livestock before and after sale

18.1 All livestock is at the risk of the Vendor before sale and at the risk of the Purchaser after sale.
 

Raider112

Member
They are your property until the hammer falls, or yours once the hammer falls if you are buying, so just like anything else they are the owners responsibility
I stand corrected, accidents with stock slipping, injuring themselves etc. happen from time to time and I assumed the auction company would have that covered while the stock were on their premises.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
If a bull kills someone in the market it is the sellers responsibility I have been told which does seem somewhat strange on this day and age. Is this correct?

I think that would very much depend on the circumstances. Big notices usually indicate that public are at their own risk if in alleyways, pens, etc. The market facilities should cope with containing livestock.
 

haymaker80

Member
Location
Stafford
They are your property until the hammer falls, or yours once the hammer falls if you are buying, so just like anything else they are the owners responsibility
Although the livestock are the property of the buyer or seller, the market will have a shared responsibility to contain them safely whilst on their premises. A bullock we bought escaped from the market a couple of years ago, the auctioneers reimbursed us and resold the beast themselves the following week after they had caught it.
 

D.S.S18

Member
I knew a chap who sold a batch of lambs through a mart, unfortunately, one got killed in the holding pen after the sale, the mart sent an invoice for a fellmonger - the chap sent the invoice back with a note - 'at the fall of the hammer, the item becomes the responsibility of the purchaser'.

he never did pay that bill.......
 

bluebell

Member
i know when you go to a farm dispersal sale and are the winning bid on a farm machine that you are then legally bound to pay before you take it, unless you are known to auctioneers and the item at the drop of hammer is your responsibility to keep an eye on incase someone has something they shouldnt off it or it gets damaged?
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Most of the DOA stock we deal with are heart attacks caused by the stock not being stood and emptied out correctly and thus the onus is on the farmer for not meeting this requirement.
Accidents still occur but literally a one per million chance if loaded correctly - which is up to the driver's discretion, and of course it is all care and little responsibility if the stock are unfit for transport or dangerously aggressive
 

Davy_g

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Down
I get the marts will try and protect themselves but once I hand the permit to the drover and they check the I’d and put lot numbers on them, then the Mary has more than a duty of care for my beast.
 
I think that would very much depend on the circumstances. Big notices usually indicate that public are at their own risk if in alleyways, pens, etc. The market facilities should cope with containing livestock.

Those signs at the market are about as relevant to todays claims culture as maypole dancing. Unfortunately no one in business gets away with saying 'we warned em, they should have taken more care'. If Mrs Smith and her granddaughter are crushed by a bullock having just walked in off the high street to look at the cows then I guarantee the markets insurers will be putting money aside to settle the claim.
 

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