Rethink Risk

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yeah I know you lot qualify this as social media and the video is here. Still doesn't mean most farmers will see this content. Far more will see it if H&S send information directly to farmers.
All farmers (all farmers) have family, loved ones and friends on social media. Best way to get it out there and especially if they nag and cajole the farmer too

Virtually every comment on here in the wreckers and why don't kids get off the 'phones sections involves someone glued to their phones.
 

SteveHants

Member
Livestock Farmer
Farm Safety Doesn’t Cost The Earth... - YellowWellies.org

Was reading this just now,
At the bottom a girl Emily Jones quote "Emily also used the power of social media to ask for responses to her study and received 1,000 responses from farmers across the UK on how they thought safety could be improved"

Did she get the 1000 responses from her questionnaire here on TFF? If so is that not quite a good uptake of TFF members.

I did some research on the hobby poultry market as I was interested in its viability for farm diversification projects just using facebook groups - I got over 1,000 responses from that alone.

A student of mine just won our young enterprise award with his plan to develop his business doing just that.
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Why is it there are people who don't actually read what is posted.

You state "Every farm" yet I can state we don't, I know some of my neighbours don't and I know some of my farming friends don't.

Now I'll make another point. As a family member if I say something to my father he WILL ignore it because it comes from me (He's done it for 50 years and I don't think he'll be any different for the next 50 years either). Whereas if he sees it in a magazine or it comes from someone else he'll take far more notice (Which I often do to get around the block).

Social media is used by mostly young people under 50. Farmers on average are over 50.
This(TFF) is social media........
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
I agree that posting would benefit some people. But to post out ever update would cost circa £40m a year. 100,000 holding, £3.5 per item printed and delivered x 120 updates. I think there are more than this.

With TFF they can publish all these for basically free and reach a lot of farmers. Not all, but a lot. So its a wise use of resources imo. It's why we have developed some new functionality with the next version of TFF to help distribute HSE information better.
 
I agree that posting would benefit some people. But to post out ever update would cost circa £40m a year. 100,000 holding, £3.5 per item printed and delivered x 120 updates. I think there are more than this.

With TFF they can publish all these for basically free and reach a lot of farmers. Not all, but a lot. So its a wise use of resources imo. It's why we have developed some new functionality with the next version of TFF to help distribute HSE information better.


HMG can do it, in fact they SHOULD be doing it. They also have the information to target the correct groups of people - in relation to the different aspects of farming that are creating the most accidents. Anyway I'll shut up.
 

cb387

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cotswolds
Did anyone else notice the advert on the inside cover of the FW this week promoting farm safety app / safe working practices etc. Picture had combine with a dog in the cab.
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Given that most farmers do NOT use social media.

Why are they doing something most farmers will NEVER EVER see ?

I don't use Twitter, Facebook, Youtube or indeed any other social media, my father who owns the farm probably doesn't even know the names of these media outlets.

Very poor methodology IMHO.

If you want farmers to take action on H&S you are actually going to have to print it and deliver it to doors.

TFF is social media ! The largest farming source in the Uk so you do use it and as a result have seen it

you have disproved your own point
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
A comments forum social media .. personally I would qualify this site as an old school comment forum. Social media is usually associated with media providers with the media platform telling you where content is that you might like.

Regardless of your need to prove me wrong in my opinion of a website .. this doesn't get away from the fact that most farmers will not see this H&S message.

comments just like Facebook posts or Twitter tweets really- it’s all social media, forums invented the very concept before Twitter or Facebook were even conceived
 
TFF is social media ! The largest farming source in the Uk so you do use it and as a result have seen it

you have disproved your own point


It's a comments forum which has been around since the inception of the internet. There's no real Social aspect to it. No groups, no split between media presenters and media consumers, no automated content advisor (I don't get a list of new threads I might be interested in).


comments just like Facebook posts or Twitter tweets really- it’s all social media, forums invented the very concept before Twitter or Facebook were even conceived


Twitter is a message forum with "Re-tweets" and hash tags used to concentrate messages - it's basically a shouting forum where the volume control is the number of people involved. I thought this was a bit like a school playground with mass bullying.

Facebook is a dating forum with lots of ways people and companies contribute with media content. Timeline, badges, photos and social interests "outside" of facebook (Promoting facebook using content and spreading it's use).

Youtube is a pure video media creators website presented to users etc. Comments are applied to content are are not the consumed media.

There are other media creators website like Twitch which is interactive video with a "chat".
 

thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
It's a comments forum which has been around since the inception of the internet. There's no real Social aspect to it. No groups, no split between media presenters and media consumers, no automated content advisor (I don't get a list of new threads I might be interested in).





Twitter is a message forum with "Re-tweets" and hash tags used to concentrate messages - it's basically a shouting forum where the volume control is the number of people involved. I thought this was a bit like a school playground with mass bullying.

Facebook is a dating forum with lots of ways people and companies contribute with media content. Timeline, badges, photos and social interests "outside" of facebook (Promoting facebook using content and spreading it's use).

Youtube is a pure video media creators website presented to users etc. Comments are applied to content are are not the consumed media.

There are other media creators website like Twitch which is interactive video with a "chat".


Give it a rest with your ' comments forum ' will you, what do think social media is ?

Bye and bye, the power of this media is phenomenal to get news and information out far and wide quickly. Why waste resources hard mailing when everything can now be done on-line.

If you can't deal with it, or in many cases won't, it's time to retire.

We should all have our own personal account with H&S, where we can list our risk profile, what equipment we have, and what our tasks are.

This should stimulate site specific information that is important to us, as well as general farm safety information and updates.

Trawling through a H&S Site, looking for categories in politically correct worded tabs is a pain in the axxe.

.........and they know as well as anybody, make a task difficult or time consuming and it doesn't get done.
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
We should all have our own personal account with H&S, where we can list our risk profile, what equipment we have, and what our tasks are.

This should stimulate site specific information that is important to us, as well as general farm safety information and updates.

Trawling through a H&S Site, looking for categories in politically correct worded tabs is a pain in the axxe.

.........and they know as well as anybody, make a task difficult or time consuming and it doesn't get done.

We have ben trying to work on this, but can't even get anyone from HSE to answer an email. Its frustrating. With tech it is quite possible in this day and age if they wanted to.
 

glow worm

Member
Location
cornwall
We have ben trying to work on this, but can't even get anyone from HSE to answer an email. Its frustrating. With tech it is quite possible in this day and age if they wanted to.
They can't even make BCMS business specific where you have to scroll through umpteen cattle breeds that you will never ever use to find the only 3 breeds you do, so dream on with HSE.
 

CPF

Member
Arable Farmer
To start to get farm safety drummed into Industry HSE has to get back into doing farm visits and to start to throw some weight about with some big fines then the industry will wake up .
 
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