First thread so new to all of this! We have a 500hd beef unit and contract Hay, haylage, straw / rake, bale and cart. We run 2 rigid claas 3T 7m telehandlers full on, especially when it comes to emptying yards of muck. One is on the way out so looking to upgrade to either a slightly larger lift in the same or look to other options. We have demo'd the Jcb tm320s and that was a great piece of kit, especially on the muck clamp. We are wondering whether a loading shovel could be another way to go but worried about the reach. Any thoughts from anyone in a similar position or had experience on all of this kit would be great!!
Rigid telehandler, pivot steer telehandler or loading shovel?
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Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
One should easily manage that amount of cattle if single site and organised.
If you bale and cart put a loader on a tractor.
If you bale and cart put a loader on a tractor.
deleted user 837354
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When dunging out you want a bucket and grab, although it may be faster with a clamshell. Might even be able to get a clamshell bucket with a grab. Volvo are where it is at for loading shovels.
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- Dorset/Wilts
We have less cattle than the OP, but we run - albeit two older machines, a telehandler and loading shovel.
Could but wouldn't want to operate with only one. Practically any job around the yard requires a machine
Bite the bullet and get a 420 . @Bald Rick had just got one
Aye.
420 much better machine than 320 but tad heavier on juice as bigger, heavier machine but no comparison in headstock strength
If you don’t need lift height, you won’t beat a pivot for tear out allied with manoeuvrability and reach which is where it would triumph over a loading shovel
Mad For Muck
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- Midlands
We’ve got a side arm jcb which we’ve semi retired & gone for a centre pivot this time. Wouldn’t go back to a side arm now, did want a shovel with a toe tip but it was too big for some of our work so stuck a new toe tip on the front of the centre pivot - not had it long but seems a good set up so far
Same engine as 320 (on which we put 6500hrs in 3 years) but 420 is a better all round machine.
After a few days with a pivot, you’ll wonder why you didn’t change years ago
We had a manitou on demo.
Waste of time as build quality is worse than jcb and headstock is weak plus the display is odd.
How do you find your Manitou? Did you compare to the Jcb?We’ve got a side arm jcb which we’ve semi retired & gone for a centre pivot this time. Wouldn’t go back to a side arm now, did want a shovel with a toe tip but it was too big for some of our work so stuck a new toe tip on the front of the centre pivot - not had it long but seems a good set up so far
We've got a loader tractor, just not quick enough loading in the field, 350 - 400 rounds a day, raked/baled/carted and wrapped. Normally have forklift in the field and forklift at home to wrap with 2 tractors carting. The tm320 looks much nicer for bombing around the fields collecting bales. The rigids are quite uncomfortable on the wrong fields....
Mad For Muck
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- Midlands
Its only done about 70 hours so far but really impressed with it, there’s a couple of things I’m not a massive fan of -heater/air con/fan controls are more complicated than they needed to be & the dash display takes a bit of getting used to but apart from that very happy with it. Didn’t look at the jcb due to the local dealer/back up. Couple of our guys have driven jcb tm’s & say they prefer the manitou
Boomerang
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what are you doing with it to putt that amount of hours on it ?
Runs from 5am until 5pm most weekdays and about half that at weekends depending.
Any job that’s legal with a loadall
Gives us a reasonable insight into what’s good and what’s not so good
Would you say that the pivots are a big improvement on silage clamps and dung clamps, I noticed with the steering action they don't chew the ground up nearly as much as a rigid. Have you towed with them much, it would be ideal if we could tow a trailer to some of our smaller fields and bring a load back, I know this could be a job for a loader tractor however we could then use it to also load equine muck heaps and bring them home without using 2 machines.
deleted user 837354
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If you are running a machine 12 hours a day, day after day then it needs to be a shovel, provided you can fit the thing in buildings. The build/design is way above any telehandler.
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