River Lugg, Herefordshire

serf

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Location
warwickshire
And as I’ve said before, those water voals and newts, and everything else that lives on the river banks seems to survive and reappear after 15-20 foot of flood water several times a year, so I’m damn sure they would survive, (and appreciate) some dredging every decade or so, as it would be a lot easier on them!
Of course they do , nature always evolves and finds a way round obstacles , its just the tree huggers that seem to get their voice heard and tell everyone their agenda 😤
 

topground

Member
Location
North Somerset.
So.... Did the EA decide to take this matter any further??

I cannot recall seeing anything for a while.
Covid main excuse these days for inactivity in the public sector, together with a possible time limit on bringing a prosecution after the offence ( if any) I was going to add common sense but of course there seems to be little or none within the portals of the EA.
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
Local farmer here was castigated for hitting an over grown roadside hedge back hard last winter, ir was long over due and IIRC the council told him to do it, lots of comments in local paper about how bad it was, wouldnt know it had been touched now.
Had similar here, smashed a hedge back drastically end of February & got loads of hassle - the bits I cut have grown like mad & held finch nests for the first time in quite a few years... the bits I didn't get a chance have almost no new growth & have only appealed to the rats on wings.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Local farmer here was castigated for hitting an over grown roadside hedge back hard last winter, ir was long over due and IIRC the council told him to do it, lots of comments in local paper about how bad it was, wouldnt know it had been touched now.

Had similar here, smashed a hedge back drastically end of February & got loads of hassle - the bits I cut have grown like mad & held finch nests for the first time in quite a few years... the bits I didn't get a chance have almost no new growth & have only appealed to the rats on wings.

Sad thing nowadays is that people are quick to jump up and down and complain about someone doing something....and think they know more than the person who has done it, despite actually having no practical experience themselves.

This is only going to get worse and worse going forward with more eco-friendlies and re-wilding talk. Landscape management, and environmental damage are totally different things but some people seem to confuse the two.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
I would like forum members who have experience of these kinds of works (or just operating the required plant) to give a rough estimate of how much this work would have cost the landowner. I know he probably didn't do an adder and watervole survey first but we all know the cost of one of those is eleventy-billion pounds.
He probably did it for about 10k and if the EA had been tasked with it i guess it would of been closer to 100k
 

texelburger

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Sad thing nowadays is that people are quick to jump up and down and complain about someone doing something....and think they know more than the person who has done it, despite actually having no practical experience themselves.

This is only going to get worse and worse going forward with more eco-friendlies and re-wilding talk. Landscape management, and environmental damage are totally different things but some people seem to confuse the two.
Absolutely agree.Enviromental schemes and rewilding is only going to push our food production oversees where it will be brought in via Ships and planes producing far more emissions and greenhouse gases than if the food had been grown in the UK in a sustainable way with good rotations.
I often wonder how much common sense our Politicians and environmentalists really have,
 
Absolutely agree.Enviromental schemes and rewilding is only going to push our food production oversees where it will be brought in via Ships and planes producing far more emissions and greenhouse gases than if the food had been grown in the UK in a sustainable way with good rotations.
I often wonder how much common sense our Politicians and environmentalists really have,

I’m pretty sure they ain’t got any
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Absolutely agree.Enviromental schemes and rewilding is only going to push our food production oversees where it will be brought in via Ships and planes producing far more emissions and greenhouse gases than if the food had been grown in the UK in a sustainable way with good rotations.
I often wonder how much common sense our Politicians and environmentalists really have,

They are just blind.

They see what they don't like....but don't go one step further and realise that they themselves are actually a party to this too, however much they would love to detach themselves.

Sewage sludge being the perfect example - if you don't like the current process of dealing with it, then rather than saying how others should change what they do and what works for them.....you are welcome anytime to vote with your feet and stop feeding into that system that they abhorr so much.
 

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