River Lugg, Herefordshire

[quattro]

But surely there will be plenty of liability claims against the EA, if there is a failure,
Possibly that wouldn’t be a bad thing,

i can’t go take a stone wall down without getting a fine, so they should be fined for destruction of something so old , and a main waterway

 

[steveR]

The EA will prod produce a host of "experts" who will claim that the failure was nothing to do with the work that's been done & provide some semi-plausible alternative reason that shifts liability.

All the more reason to escalate the matter now surely..

Might be the locals need their own experts in, PDQ? Legal assistance schemes with NFU or similiar bodies?

 

[grainboy]

Suggest, that all the potentially affected people act now, form a group, go to the highest levels, get legal advice, and independent water engineer on board, be ready to take on the EA,
This problem is not going away, I see Bedford end what water goes your way, and most years now there is a high alert status,

 

[grainboy]

NFU, now you are having a laugh, !!

 

[teslacoils]

Seems like they have played the "your asking us to investigate has meant we can do any more work this year". Bit of advance farmer blame for any winter problems. Now to hide behind their own retained Beards to say they did nothing wrong. Sigh.

 

[No wot]

the only time anything gets a lot of attention is when a tragedy happens and life, lives are lost? terrible to say that? then all the various official bodies come out of their hiding places to makes statments? asking for a public enquirey that then gives another civil servant gets a jolley to make a few million, publish a large report that no one reads? stuffed with a load of meaning less jargon that someones downloaded off the internet to pad out the report? How do i now all this, because we had it here?

You forgot to add " that lessons will be learnt"

 

[Kidds]

i can’t go take a stone wall down without getting a fine, so they should be fined for destruction of something so old , and a main waterway

Must be a Grade 1 listed waterway at least, if not a National Treasure, Ancient Monument etc etc.

 

[TheTallGuy]

The gates at Earith this morning water up to the top of the gates which aren't open. Gate B is open a few inches, but possibly due to debris underneath.

 

[Exfarmer]

I would love to see the contract which was put out for tender to do this work. It may be available on line if you knew what to search for

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Bit like when all this flash flooding happens, in places not seen before,
‘It’s global warming’
No it’s not,
But a list of man made changes that have affected water absorption and run off,
Ie, building, lack of maintenance, clip board operatives, etc etc,

having seen some of these examples of water infiltration, I think a lot of flash flooding is caused by too fast run off, due to poor infiltration.

 

[steveR]

NFU, now you are having a laugh, !!

Not the NFU, the Legal people.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Bit like when all this flash flooding happens, in places not seen before,
‘It’s global warming’
No it’s not,
But a list of man made changes that have affected water absorption and run off,
Ie, building, lack of maintenance, clip board operatives, etc etc,

Remember too, due I think to environmental regs, the national rivers authority can't just dredge rivers and spread the spoil, the spoil needs analysing and if found to be contaminated has to be landfilled (can be up £90/ton including haulage), this means less dredging is undertaken. That is why there is less maintenance.

 

[grainboy]

having seen some of these examples of water infiltration, I think a lot of flash flooding is caused by too fast run off, due to poor infiltration.

The problem with the Ouse catchment area Bedford end, is the magic Cambridge / Oxford development arc, thousands of acres gone to distribution centres, some of which must cover 30 acres or more each, and the associated housing schemes,
They build rainwater holding lakes, but even in times of heavy rain fall, you never see them with much or any water in them,
Not only have they reduced natural ground water capacity, but increased water run off,
The problem should of and could of been foreseen, but no money took precedence,

 

[milton-95]

Looks like ITV are going to be covering this on the 6 o'clock news tonight, stop the floods Facebook page says they're film just now.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

The problem with the Ouse catchment area Bedford end, is the magic Cambridge / Oxford development arc, thousands of acres gone to distribution centres, some of which must cover 30 acres or more each, and the associated housing schemes,
They build rainwater holding lakes, but even in times of heavy rain fall, you never see them with much or any water in them,
Not only have they reduced natural ground water capacity, but increased water run off,
The problem should of and could of been foreseen, but no money took precedence,

I think we develop exactly where we should not, much as I love living in the hills and would hate to see them all developed, we should be building on hill land that is poor quality, never on flood plains or top quality agricultural land.

 

[onthehoof]

On local news tonight

 

[onthehoof]

The gates at Earith this morning water up to the top of the gates which aren't open. Gate B is open a few inches, but possibly due to debris underneath.


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The sluice is automatic, the levels when they open are set in law so they can't be tinkered with, the middle gate opens first and closes last

 

[onthehoof]

The EA will prod produce a host of "experts" who will claim that the failure was nothing to do with the work that's been done & provide some semi-plausible alternative reason that shifts liability.

The EA have brought in an 'independent' reservoir engineer to inspect, he's due to report by 5th Nov

 

[quattro]

On local news tonight
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Can someone put a link up about the news tonight

 

[lloyd]

The EA have brought in an 'independent' reservoir engineer to inspect, he's due to report by 5th Nov

Is there such a thing as 'independent'?