River Lugg, Herefordshire
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yellow belly
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the highways when they took out the roundabourts on the a1 and the a46 dueling put in water balancing ponds to take any flood water
they never hold any water even though we have heavy rainfall and floods in the ditches and fields
the out lets to their drainage systems is to big so it does not hold the water for long enough
this is all designed by water (hydrological) engineers
imho the the standards laid out for the engineers to work to are not fit for purpose
this will only change when ther is catastrophic flooding on a level with 1950s when 3000 people died
every one hides behind tick boxes and no one who has practical experience which combined with to 21st century climate change rainfall events
the last 20 years the number of heavy rainfall events has mushroomed to 10 or more per year compared to 1 or 2 in the 1970s and 80s
when we get 3 heavy rainfall events in the space of 2 weeks the rivers into the wash cannot take t quick enough
lets hope that climate change is not permenant wet winters
they never hold any water even though we have heavy rainfall and floods in the ditches and fields
the out lets to their drainage systems is to big so it does not hold the water for long enough
this is all designed by water (hydrological) engineers
imho the the standards laid out for the engineers to work to are not fit for purpose
this will only change when ther is catastrophic flooding on a level with 1950s when 3000 people died
every one hides behind tick boxes and no one who has practical experience which combined with to 21st century climate change rainfall events
the last 20 years the number of heavy rainfall events has mushroomed to 10 or more per year compared to 1 or 2 in the 1970s and 80s
when we get 3 heavy rainfall events in the space of 2 weeks the rivers into the wash cannot take t quick enough
lets hope that climate change is not permenant wet winters
Exfarmer
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Great news
Exfarmer
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When they built Milton Keynes they built balancing lakes, but very quickly these were allowed to remain permanently filled for recreational purposes so summer floods instead of being very rare became annual events.
Exfarmer
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Just apply the Malcolm Tucker view on experts IE make sure you know the answer youre going to get, and that it's the one you want to hear.
Must be a tricky position if your job is writing reports into waterways and reservoirs if your client is essentially the government department responsible for all reservoirs and waterways.
But who knows.
Telford was supposed to have a 40-50ac balancing lake put in near teh farm here to handle all the road, factory and house run-off. It was mever built in the end, as the N Telford area had not started development. So now it is all developed the storm water channel is like a raging torrent during heavy rain, with zero maintenance.
And then the IDB 2 miles away, is rightly screaming about all the hard surface water being dumped into a watercourse thaat was designed and built for field drainage... and teh EA/Council do not want to pay towards maintenance
Some record it please or put a link up! Thank you.
Hopefully interested locals will be allowed to submit evidence to this chap.
borderterribles
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Ramrod
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Fen farmers flood fears after "400 year old" river clay removed
ANGLIA
ENVIRONMENT
FLOODS
CAMBRIDGESHIRE
Monday 25 October 2021, 3:08pm
A group of Fen farmers are raising concerns about flooding after contractors working for the Environment Agency stripped a 400 year old drain of it's river clay.
The campaigners are angered by dredging that they fear has damaged the historic man-made river across the Fens.
The group 'Stop The Floods' managed to get the Environment Agency to halt the work on the New Bedford River - which flows through Cambridgeshire into Norfolk.
But they believe the dredging has removed large amounts of the clay lining - which makes channel watertight and stops it flooding.
The farmers contacted the Environment Agency to get it to stop its dredging work. After they spotted what they believe are tonnes of the river's clay lining dumped on the bank.
Ross Taylor, from the group Stop the Floods, said: "It was made out of clay, built with clay, as a foundation and in the last week, few weeks, they have took the clay out of the river and exposed the subsoil peat, which in our opinion is going to create a disaster."
The straight channel was built by the renowned Dutch engineer Cornelius Vermuyden. It was created as part of works in the mid 17th century to drain the Fens to create more farmland.
- After the water's gone: the areas affected by the weekend's torrential rain
- Call for more action to stop village and its homes from flooding
The farmers run a group called Stop the Floods which was formed in response to flooding in places like the Billing Aquadrome near Northampton also at St Ives in Cambridgeshire.
They campaign for more action to be taken. But dredging out this river's clay lining wasn't on their list of priorities.
The Environment Agency says: "The desilting work on the Hundred Foot River is part of an annual maintenance programme. Before doing any work we conduct quarterly surveys to understand silt build up and inform where to focus our desilting efforts."
"We were advised of concerns about the current works from local residents on Monday, 11 October, and we ceased work. Our initial investigations did not highlight any cause for concern. Nevertheless, we have instructed an independent engineer to carry out an inspection and assessment of the entire works."
This channel was built 370 years ago to control the flow of water. Now these farmers fear that the dredging could undo that historic feat of engineering
Ramrod
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Above is from ITV Anglia web site
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If that is the case, are the Environment Agency inept then?
Not sure if it was 2, or just a big, wrap round one. There is a big one of teh A442 near Madeley interchange
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Ramrod
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Scroll down to 3rd item 
I'm not sure which is worse about the EA comment about their initial thinking no harm had been done , are they just trying to deflect the press from the problem hoping they dont know any better which is completely dishonest or are the EA really that useless that they dont actually know the potential huge problem they have created.
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Picture from stop the floods Facebook group.
Photo credit Sarah-jane Taylor.
ITV 6pm tonight.
Will be interesting to see what journalistic narrative itv go for tonight........
Photo credit Sarah-jane Taylor.
ITV 6pm tonight.
Will be interesting to see what journalistic narrative itv go for tonight........
My thoughts keep going back to the early part of this thread and the EA wanting to jail the farmer who did the work on the river Ludd which actually made things better against this vandalism by the EA who will no doubt firstly deny any wrongdoing and secondly get off Scott free
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