Rolling advice

[mixed breed]

Spring barley and wheat has been in a month now and with little rainfall in that time I'm reasonably pleased how they're looking. I don't ever remember rolling post emergence before (always more important things to do) but after such a dry time I'm wondering if it's worth rolling them again, the wheat particularly looks like it would benefit.

Am I talking daft? Is it to early? are plants strong enough? Will it do anything apart from burn diesel?

There's rain forecast from Tuesday onwards so I may be better leaving it till after we've had that, if we get it, that is

 

[Brisel]

That's tillering nicely and looks great. Why risk damaging plants in the wheelings by rolling again? If you suffer from chronic manganese deficiency, stones, peat or hadn't rolled it yet it might be a different story.

 

[davidroberts30]

Heavy flat roll the barley at 3 leaf
It will conserve moisture
If your undecided do a few "test areas"

 

[Pan mixer]

I am having the same dilemma, watching.

 

[mixed breed]

Heavy flat roll the barley at 3 leaf
It will conserve moisture
If your undecided do a few "test areas"

I hadn't considered flat rolling, I'd be worried it doing more harm than good, particularly on the turns. I know a few who Cambridge roll spring crops every year but does it really help it?

Perhaps Im thinking I can help it when all it really needs is rain..

 

[Brisel]

Rolling cause root stress which can make it tiller more. On light puffy soils where you have a history of lodging it could be useful.

Just don't do it if it's wet on top or underneath. The eastern growers will snort in disgust as they are in drought but some west country folk have had a lot of rain & you could do a lot of crop and soil damage. I'd certainly expect to see dual wheels or low ground pressure tyres on a job like this.

 

[davidroberts30]

I hadn't considered flat rolling, I'd be worried it doing more harm than good, particularly on the turns. I know a few who Cambridge roll spring crops every year but does it really help it?

Perhaps Im thinking I can help it when all it really needs is rain..

I'm on red sand stone soils and am never afraid to roll crops
Just plan rolling so your not rolling same area more than 2x

 

[MrNoo]

Next door were on rolling SB yesterday within an inch of it's life, I did think about mine but it's looking pretty tight and decided I didnt want to stress the crop with this dry hot spell.

 

[average farmer]

Never done much but never regretted doing it .

 

[ollie989898]

If it's going to rain, get on and roll it now. That will go down perfect.

 

[ZXR17]

How long would you leave between rolling and liquid N ? Or , which would need the shortest gap . Roll first or liquid N first ?

 

[Brisel]

Rolling will damage the waxy leaf cuticle. Leave it a week either way. Has it had any N yet? If not, fertilser first.

 

[Devon James]

Good morning. Oats at early stages of emergence. Get on and roll it before these showers this week? Want to roll it but not sure if a bit early for the crop

 

[Chae1]

Hopefully be okay to roll it now. I did about 50 acres at that stage on Friday.

 

[jpd]

if a crop was ring rolled post sowing
would you consider rolling post emergance?

 

[Chae1]

@neilo

 

[davidroberts30]

if a crop was ring rolled post sowing
would you consider rolling post emergance?

I would

 

[davidroberts30]

Good morning. Oats at early stages of emergence. Get on and roll it before these showers this week? Want to roll it but not sure if a bit early for the cropView attachment 789998

I personally feel it's a bit early yet
Barley I roll at 3 leaf

 

[ZXR17]

@Brisel . It had 60kg n in the seedbed and 70 to go on now . It's growing well and ideally want the rest of the fert on before the rain on Wednesday . It would be nice to be able to roll it but to be honest even the more knobbly areas are going to grow quickly if we have the rain and warmth forecast.

 

[Brisel]

@Brisel . It had 60kg n in the seedbed and 70 to go on now . It's growing well and ideally want the rest of the fert on before the rain on Wednesday . It would be nice to be able to roll it but to be honest even the more knobbly areas are going to grow quickly if we have the rain and warmth forecast.

Definitely fertiliser first. Any pre em herbicide to worry about breaking up?