Rolling Winter Wheat

[ollie989898]

With a 12m set of rolls it doesn't matter how fast you go really. Every arable farm should have a set.

 

[Clive]

With a 12m set of rolls it doesn't matter how fast you go really. Every arable farm should have a set.

find a bit slower does a better job - we run at 8kph - cover 200acres plus a day even at that speed

 

[YELROM]

With a 12m set of rolls it doesn't matter how fast you go really. Every arable farm should have a set.

I'd spent more time folding and unfolding them than i would rolling ?

 

[ajd132]

I’m beginning to think, that as long as conditions are okay we should roll all wheat as a matter of course. For tillering, pgr and promoting rood growth and exudation. Rather than splashing the ccc and trace elements about encourage the plant to go and find these nutrients themselves? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

 

[Brisel]

I’m beginning to think, that as long as conditions are okay we should roll all wheat as a matter of course. For tillering, pgr and promoting rood growth and exudation. Rather than splashing the ccc and trace elements about encourage the plant to go and find these nutrients themselves? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

I like the idea, but if you get the timing wrong or do it when wet with a heavy tractor with high tyre pressures, you can do more harm than good IMO. Your CTF should suit it nicely.

 

[Steevo]

It's ok with wide rolls.

and autosteer!

 

[teslacoils]

and autosteer!

Nooo. Never quite lines up when contractor drills with rtk but my tractors not fancy as that.

 

[ollie989898]

I’m beginning to think, that as long as conditions are okay we should roll all wheat as a matter of course. For tillering, pgr and promoting rood growth and exudation. Rather than splashing the ccc and trace elements about encourage the plant to go and find these nutrients themselves? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

It's like PGR and manganese and the like, it's not something every acre needs every year.


Good dash of digestate/muck/slurry cures many ills.

 

[ajd132]

I like the idea, but if you get the timing wrong or do it when wet with a heavy tractor with high tyre pressures, you can do more harm than good IMO. Your CTF should suit it nicely.

Of course. Our rolls don’t actually fit onto 12m CTF as they are 18 m so once on the tramline and once in between, I actually think rolling in CTF marks post drilling makes them worse so we decided to compromise and put one extra mark in, its very rarely visible. It also means you can always roll up hill on a tramline which the 12/36 m doesn’t allow and can cause a right mess.

 

[DrWazzock]

Doesn’t the lead damage let septoria and fungi in? That’s my only concern with it, though I realise it can help in other ways.

 

[JCfarmer]

Drilling spring barley with the Claydon on some nasty heavy land that had a pass with the carrier first. Going reasonably well but having to roll it with the carrier after at 5-7 km with the discs tickling the top and going down well in most parts.
Was planning on wizzing over with the rolls as well but just wondering if it is firm enough after the weight of the carrier on it for spring barley. Seed depth is about 4cm.

 

[JCfarmer]

All wheat drilled before Christmas has been rolled and is smiling at me, wheat drilled in feb I daredn't do, not at the moment anyway.

 

[JCfarmer]

All wheat drilled before Christmas has been rolled and is smiling at me, wheat drilled in feb I daredn't do, not at the moment anyway.

Edit, my father wants to roll the early feb drilled wheat tomorrow after looking at it! I haven't had chance to look at it recently.

 

[Steevo]

Been out rolling the November drilled wheat today - couldn't really see any striping of the plants like a lawn to show where I had been, but it certainly levelled the surface and helped flatten some of the ruts made when applying the Hatra just two weeks ago!

Very sure it will make a big difference to the final plant and ultimately yield. It looks like plants may be losing tillers currently due to the dry weather.

 

[Steevo]

Is it too late to roll this sowed 12th October.

I've some drilled similar time that's had some spring crops stitched into it. Will likely end up with some overlap when I roll that tomorrow so in a few weeks/months I'll be able to report back.

I've a couple of mixed fields that are thin in patches and ok in others. Was planning to roll them to improve the bad bits but will avoid anything that looks too upright.

 

[Steevo]

Has anyone ever had any bad results in the narrow strips that get some overlap?

It's not so much the narrow strips that get the hammering but the headlands more so.

After my rolling today I can't see any problems likely from overlap. I did question whether something a little more upright might dislike being rolled one way (e.g. clockwise round headland) and then the other way (when turning counterclockwise coming out of one pass ready to go up the next pass) would really stress the plant though.

 

[Clive]

I’m beginning to think, that as long as conditions are okay we should roll all wheat as a matter of course. For tillering, pgr and promoting rood growth and exudation. Rather than splashing the ccc and trace elements about encourage the plant to go and find these nutrients themselves? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

we do roll ever year in the spring, very rarely use any pgr’s

you are not barking up the wrong tree but your rolls are 6m too wide ! get the gas axe out !

 

[Steevo]

With a 12m set of rolls it doesn't matter how fast you go really. Every arable farm should have a set.

Couldn't agree more. Far too slow a job to be doing with anything narrower if you're trying to do the job right.

Bound to keep their value better than a 6m set too.

 

[ajd132]

we do roll ever year in the spring, very rarely use any pgr’s

you are not barking up the wrong tree but your rolls are 6m too wide ! get the gas axe out !

No, make way more mess with 12m rolls than 18 on 36m tramlines. Some steep hills and clay meant there will be no crop there if you don’t lug up hill on the actual tramline

 

[JCfarmer]

And there was me thinking DD ground was so firm you don't make mess especially when rolling!
How heavy are your 18m rolls ajd132?
12.3m ones can vary but 7500kg is around the middle weight.