Rotation no till dilemma

Beefsmith

Member
Like everybody else our rotation is shot to pieces. I’ve a 120ac that in harvest 19 was winter wheat. It should of been winter beans for harvest 20 but ended up as spring wheat. I now really need it back into winter wheat for logistical reasons and to get the rotation back on track. The land is in good condition and we’ve removed the spring wheat straw due to its value. I want to direct drill (tine) winter wheat into the spring wheats stubble. Convince me not to?
Would a shallow disc alleviate any potential issues like take all etc.
 

robs1

Member
Discing is more likely to cause more problems with take all etc. A good dose of muck would help it get a good start, or some d a p down the spout. Yes I know you're not meant too but if sh!t is ok then a tiny bit of d a p is fine
 

Warnesworth

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Chipping Norton
What are the soil conditions like? Was the soil 'wet' at harvest and subsequent baling and collection/stacking operations? i.e are there random wheelings all over the field? How long has it been no-till?
 

Beefsmith

Member
What are the soil conditions like? Was the soil 'wet' at harvest and subsequent baling and collection/stacking operations? i.e are there random wheelings all over the field? How long has it been no-till?

Generally very good. Headland tramlines are very compacted but flat not rutted and will be in the same place so I’m not worried about them.
 
in 2019 we planted wheat as a 3rd cereal after wheat spring barley and as a second wheat produced very good crops compared to long term average

but it was planted in good dry conditions with no heavy rain in the 2 weeks after planting

notill gd drill

imho the machinery type is irelivant if the conditions are good anything from plough combi to low disturbance notill disc drill
if it is too wet it is for all of them
the combi system can leave the soil too loose to avoid takeall
in the 1980s trials showed tighter firmer seed beds reduced takeall
 

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