Rough red diesel prices? weighing up if worth it

[yellow belly]

The fuel company’s can only deliver red to those who are farmers for food production or off road users they need the business name and address for when the customs and excise inspect their records

Need bundled storage

 

[Spuddler]

Quite often you can buy red at the pump at local fuel depots where they load the lorries

 

[Still Farming]

The fuel company’s can only deliver red to those who are farmers for food production or off road users they need the business name and address for when the customs and excise inspect their records

Need bundled storage

Tell that to the pikeys that get allegedly deliveries down Cardiff ???

 

[Deutzdx3]

Does the station do red? If so why not just drive there every-time you need to fill up?

Because it's nearly £1 per litre. Or at least our local gas station is that do red.

 

[Highland Mule]

Being realistic. A smallish tractor doing ground maintenance of 7acres of mostly grazed ground, I'd be amazed if you burned through more than 100litres in a year. Get the machine filled at the local (ish) pump with red, make sure the gauge works and then make no plans until the tank is almost empty.

 

[roscoe erf]

Quite often see S/H tanks on FB. By the smallest, cheapest, you can find . Also do you use central heating oil ? order some of that too, to make you look like a more " attractive " customer.

Plastic surgery or a balaclava will do the same

 

[meekers]

Its about 54p/l when I order 5000 at a time. Remember this price excludes VAT, where as the price for white on the forecourt includes VAT. I would say buying off a neighbour is a better option.

 

[Hesston4860s]

Garage near here has red on pump, but it’s 90 odd pence a ltr.

 

[Lazy Sod]

Don't forget that the modern diesel goes off. As a small user, when the fuel was changed to low sulphur and a bio content was included, and also my old steel tank was in danger of rusting through, I decided to do the sensible thing and fill up with white at the local garage. The cost difference is insignificant.

 

[S00TY]

Unless things have changed much in the last few years I often used to fill up IBC’s at farms, car washes etc with red.
As someone mentioned before trying to find an independent localish fuel supplier is probably your best bet, the chances are they will be more accommodating and may even let you fill up some 45gal drums or use their own fill point if they have one to fill the tractor. How about an old fuel bowser pulled behind the tractor or pickup if you have one??

 

[milkloss]

Pre 1987 tanks don’t have as many hoops?

 

[JP1]

Find a friendly farmer neighbour. Get 100 litres at a time and agree a price. He might even lend you a few empty spare drums. Getting a proper tank and pump at £250 seems a lot. I doubt if you will do an hour a week on 9 acres.

^^ This. Just don't ask him for a receipt for cherry

 

[Still Farming]

5 gal white at petrol station be enough to keep it going easy.
You keep diesel and not using much you be getting bio bug and allsorts of troubles ?

 

[Suicidalsparrow]

all really helpful, thanks everyone

 

[MaisiesDad]

70.9ppl inc at the pump

 

[bovrill]

I'd go the jerry cans route, or old 20l oil drums from someone who gets through a lot. Local garage that sells red if you can use a receipt in the business, bit of cash to a farmer nearby if you don't.
Move up to a 45 gallon drum if you find you're using enough to justify it in the future.

 

[TomD]

Find a friendly farmer neighbour. Get 100 litres at a time and agree a price. He might even lend you a few empty spare drums. Getting a proper tank and pump at £250 seems a lot. I doubt if you will do an hour a week on 9 acres.

Don’t get caught as that would be illegal

 

[simmy_bull]

Hello.
I've got nowhere with a couple of very unhelpful 'speedy' and 'nationwide' fuel suppliers who couldnt even give me an approximate price for 500l red diesel. I've got about 9 acres mainly grazing and am taking delivery of a tractor next week. Will be doing only light use (harrowing, rolling, mowing, moving logs and spoil etc) and little winter work as gets very wet clay land.

Im looking at getting a 600l ibc tank with a manual pump (cost about £250), and then topping up with 500l orders of red diesel - hence looking for a rough idea of what 500l would cost currently.

There is a petrol station within a few hundred yards so Im just weighing up whether itll be worthwhile buying the fuel tank and getting deliveries, or just filling up from the petrol station. I cant imagine id need more than two deliveries per year but then i dont really know how much fuel the tractor will use (an old john deere 2040).

Id really appreciate any feedback and approx red diesel prices please, esp for similar orders.
TIA
Nick

How about living with it for a year and then making a judgement as to weather its worth it?

I’d guess in the region of 50p/l saving over white but it depends how many litres you use in a year as to how worthwhile it is trying to get set up with your own tank?

Is another option to mount a couple of 200L drums on a little car trailer and find a garage that does sell red? I’m not sure in the regs for transporting fuel.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

The fuel company’s can only deliver red to those who are farmers for food production or off road users they need the business name and address for when the customs and excise inspect their records

Need bundled storage

So they wont be deliverin' to me for the last decade? I'm just a smallholding, no probs. Get on the blower & they deliver or they are ringing my wife to do 'special-summer-offers'.......I'm a minimum buyer with only a small tank as well. £0.52 was my last price 12 months ago.
SS

 

[Poorbuthappy]

You need to be purchasing a proper bunded tank with a integrated pump. Filling an IBC with Diesel makes a mockery of the rest of us who have to jump through hoops to satisfy all relevant regulations.

Unless it's changed recently, any farmer could use a non bunded tank of under 1300 litres with gravity discharge. It's only when you go larger the tighter regulations kick in.

Edit - checked the gov site - regs apply if you store more than 1500 litres agricultural fuel.