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Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Yeah my dad and grandad we're still doing exactly the same getting the same yields fat and protein would even have improved. Selling lots of heifers actually, touch wood haven't had a huge TB issue

I think it was 20 years ago when Genus had a walk at yours. You were using all Dutch bull like Nordcap? Etc.
Glad your now selling lots as it means more profit!
 

Liam

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Location
North Devon, UK
Interesting article. Can one of you clarify something for me,
it quotes "concentrates fed per cow 2365kg and yield from forage 3612L"
Would this be right, it seems a good concentrate figure and yet not great milk from forage, I thought that these figures are in direct correlation? Would the brewers grains not be within these figures and be the difference?

edit, maybe higher ME cake than i was first considering?
 
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Liam

Member
Location
North Devon, UK
What would be regarded as a very good (top 10%) total feed rate kg conc per Litre ?
promar avg currently 0.29 but interested to know what the best are managing to achieve?

would a TMR be likely be to improve this figure?
 
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early riser

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Location
Up North
What would be regarded as a very good (top 10%) total feed rate kg conc per Litre ?
promar avg currently 0.29 but interested to know what the best are managing to achieve?

would a TMR be likely be to improve this figure?

No!

With TMR you are feeding conc to stale cows that don't need it.

I'm doing 8,200 sold off 1.8t cake so 0.22kg/litre. Need to be able to individually feed to yield in the parlour to get feed rates down to this
 

Clay52

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Location
Outer Space
No!

With TMR you are feeding conc to stale cows that don't need it.

I'm doing 8,200 sold off 1.8t cake so 0.22kg/litre. Need to be able to individually feed to yield in the parlour to get feed rates down to this

Individual grain feeding has its main benifits for those who have lots of cows that take too long to get pregnant so they have a lot of high day in milk stale cows.

Individual grain feeding isn't the key to low conc per lt. Very high quality forage is, there is no way around it.
 

early riser

Member
Location
Up North
Individual grain feeding has its main benifits for those who have lots of cows that take too long to get pregnant so they have a lot of high day in milk stale cows.

Individual grain feeding isn't the key to low conc per lt. Very high quality forage is, there is no way around it.

I'd disagree - you need both.
 
You certainly don't need it because plenty of people are doing very good production with low grain without variable grain feeding. A guy my nutritionist works with was doing around 11,000 on flat rate 5kg per day for most of the year. .

If you could find an 11000 litre in this country on a single ration with less than 10kg DM of concentrate I'd be pretty amazed.
 
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Clay52

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Location
Outer Space
What's this guy called, Pinocchio?!
Jealously???

This is what I find funny with farmers, anyone doing better than them is a liar and anyone doing worse is a crappy farmer. Haha.

I have no reason to doubt his figures. The nutritionist has seen his milk figures from the factory and has seen the grain receipts.
 

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