Round bale feed barrier feeder?

[Henarar]

Often wondered if diagonal bars would stop the cows pulling the fodder out so badly. My neighbour uses them, but he is feeding chopped material, so it doesn't count.

they pull it out of our feed trailer and that is vertical bars, we put it in that with the bale splitter

 

[steveR]

Diagonals supposed to be quite successful. Can’t the top forwards several inches.

Chopped helps a lot!

Personally preferred to not push in right next to barrier so they had to work for it rather than dragging in.

As in cant towards the cattle ?

 

[manhill]

Cone type feeder ring reduces waste considerably. Search for this subject on Google.
A US university did some studies on types of feeders.

 

[49801]

As in cant towards the cattle ?

Cant towards bale so cattle can lung a bit further forward

 

[Old Tip]

I got two bale trailers from John Shepherd Feeders, they and chopping the bales have drastically reduced waste over standard feed rings. They also do a sloped bed feeder which may fit your situation

 

[Henarar]

I got two bale trailers from John Shepherd Feeders, they and chopping the bales have drastically reduced waste over standard feed rings. They also do a sloped bed feeder which may fit your situation

was looking at his feed trailers at grassland, did you get the J bar ones ?

 

[Old Tip]

was looking at his feed trailers at grassland, did you get the J bar ones ?

No, I wanted to use them for stirks as well as cows so he advised the straight bars so the youngsters could reach in. If I was just feeding cows and older stores I would def go for the j bars.
Great firm to deal with

 

[Henarar]

No, I wanted to use them for stirks as well as cows so he advised the straight bars so the youngsters could reach in. If I was just feeding cows and older stores I would def go for the j bars.
Great firm to deal with

I dont understand why stirks could not reach in with a j bar ?

 

[steveR]

Cone type feeder ring reduces waste considerably. Search for this subject on Google.
A US university did some studies on types of feeders.

Seen that report and makes sense. Don't think anyone is making them here at the moment?

However, no use on a feed fence situation, but the John Shepherd feed fence with their "J bars" look a bit like the horizontal equivalent...

 

[steveR]

I got two bale trailers from John Shepherd Feeders, they and chopping the bales have drastically reduced waste over standard feed rings. They also do a sloped bed feeder which may fit your situation

Yep, I want to see one in the flesh first before doshing up cash. I did email them a few weeks ago, but never heard anything back....

 

[steveR]

No, I wanted to use them for stirks as well as cows so he advised the straight bars so the youngsters could reach in. If I was just feeding cows and older stores I would def go for the j bars.
Great firm to deal with

Sounds positive!!

Did you go timber floor or open bottom...? I was working on j Bars, but good point on access for young stock. However, with the sloping back, I reckoned the bale would topple into the manger.

My one concern was that it's painted, not galv. especially as the unit sits on the floor. I was thinking about skids underneath for forklift access and to keep the unit off the floor out of the shite...

 

[Henarar]

Yep, I want to see one in the flesh first before doshing up cash. I did email them a few weeks ago, but never heard anything back....

talking to him at the show he seemed the sort of bloke you would be better off phoning up

 

[Old Tip]

Yep, I want to see one in the flesh first before doshing up cash. I did email them a few weeks ago, but never heard anything back....

Def phone him, he’s a bit old school but will do modifications for you if you wanted them. I went for timber bottoms on the trailers, easy to clean out and not to difficult or expensive to replace.

 

[steveR]

Def phone him, he’s a bit old school but will do modifications for you if you wanted them. I went for timber bottoms on the trailers, easy to clean out and not to difficult or expensive to replace.

:-D

Will do thanks. Quite fancy a bike ride down that way some time in the coming weeks, so I might pop in and have a look at their kit at first hand and have a chat with them.

 

[steveR]

Wonder how good these are? Nugent unroller.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nugent-B...=item33f7175df5:g:4igAAOSwM~Rbmtgd:rk:58:pf:0

Priced keenly I would have thought...?

 

[steveR]

Def phone him, he’s a bit old school but will do modifications for you if you wanted them. I went for timber bottoms on the trailers, easy to clean out and not to difficult or expensive to replace.

Going to try and find a John Shepherd feeder that has been sold local to me, as I never made it down that direction in the end... :-(

Am wondering whether to go for a floored unit, or a hollow bottom to make life easy for cleaning out!! Floored would be more versatime I suspect,and better for this winter when the poor coos will be fed straw with molasses poured on it the night before!

 

[Happy]

My understanding from our balerman is that parallel raked rows can be uneven (heaped on one side slightly) and won’t feed into a round baler very well for a god bale shape. Our man always wants the rows raked diagonally so that, on average, the rows have an even amount of grass snatched for both sides.

Rows heaped on one side more than the other with single rotor rake is operator error.
Usually because the rake man has pro speed set at usual 540rpm whereas rakes meant to work at 420-450rpm.

Modern balers don’t really find it an issue though and if baling after such a rake man you just drive more to one side of the bout than the other to get an even bale. Would have thought diagonally raked by rake throwing it too far would make it even more of a lottery as to what bale shape came out but maybe not.

 

[Stw88]

Self locking yoke barriers waste nothing!! We installed them last year into a slatted shed as ppl said bale silage would not work as they would pull it through and block the slats. Never a drop pulled through as they have to lift there heads back up to get out so just stand with there heads through all the time.

 

[steveR]

Self locking yoke barriers waste nothing!! We installed them last year into a slatted shed as ppl said bale silage would not work as they would pull it through and block the slats. Never a drop pulled through as they have to lift there heads back up to get out so just stand with there heads through all the time.

So in effect, a "tombstone" type of barrier would do the same job would you say? As in where the cows have to lift their head up and over the top,then drop down in between the individual sections?

 

[Stw88]

So in effect, a "tombstone" type of barrier would do the same job would you say? As in where the cows have to lift their head up and over the top,then drop down in between the individual sections?

I cant see it being any different but maby not quite as good as the self lockers. You cant pd or dose and inject them in tombstone ones