Round baling silage cost

[Sharpy]

Unreliable bale wrap can ruin a business,I only ever use a few rolls of a wrap I’ve not used before on my own bales first.There will be absolutely no comeback for ruined silage,they may come and have a look but they will blame everything but the plastic,type of grass,too wet,too dry,miss shaped bales,baler,wrapper,driver etc.

Much the same as the farmer blaming the wrap, the wrapper, the stacker or the baler for poor silage, never the dirt or dung in the swathe, the vermin they failed to control..........

 

[Wellytrack]

Much the same as the farmer blaming the wrap, the wrapper, the stacker or the baler for poor silage, never the dirt or dung in the swathe, the vermin they failed to control..........

The 3cwt an acre that went on a month before it was cut…. Probably won’t have that problem the year mind.

 

[Sharpy]

The 3cwt an acre that went on a month before it was cut…. Probably won’t have that problem the year mind.

Forgot that one!

 

[glasshouse]

The 3cwt an acre that went on a month before it was cut…. Probably won’t have that problem the year mind.

What does that do to it?

 

[Wellytrack]

What does that do to it?

Turns black.

 

[M-J-G]

6 wraps to 4 is at least 15 bales an hour on a Fusion in heavy going.

I've not used a Fusion, but since @Boohoo says he can keep 2 balers going with a twin spool wrapper (and used to do it with a single) why is the Fusion loosing so much time doing 4 more revolutions? Apart from changing plastic as I've already said.

I'd guess stopping and reversing for every bale on steep land, turning all the time in small fields and travelling around to multiple sites in a day will cause more time loss than that.

 

[Fendt516profi]

I've not used a Fusion, but since @Boohoo says he can keep 2 balers going with a twin spool wrapper (and used to do it with a single) why is the Fusion loosing so much time doing 4 more revolutions? Apart from changing plastic as I've already said.

I'd guess stopping and reversing for every bale on steep land, turning all the time in small fields and travelling around to multiple sites in a day will cause more time loss than that.

Waiting for the bale to be made

 

[Ceri]

Wrapped bale silage is cheap compared to pit silage now if you can do it yourself,

the cost of owning/running a feed wagon to feed out and tractor to pull it has risen significantly, this can be avoided in sucklers by cutting your silage and different stages and placing in different stacks which you can feed to different batches of cattle according to condition score

Good silage is cheap compared to mixing feed barley in at £300/t and fuel at 1.10

Contractors rates are rising and so is labour, buy a 2nd hand fusion and get in with the job yourself uve all summer to do it

With fert at £640/t and proven less DM field losses with bale silage, surely thats the way to go and alone offsets any plastic rises?

The cost of concrete and panels has sky rocketed

Great idea go buy a clapped out fusion for 20k & put up with all the niggling break downs, then go buy desiel at 1.15/ltr and spend all summer cat farting round harvesting & lugging the dam things scuffing tyres & clocking hours on ur tractors meanwhile ill pay the local contractors guessing £80-100/acre done in a day thank u v much job done. I'm so so so glad we have our pit way things have gone......

 

[Wellytrack]

I've not used a Fusion, but since @Boohoo says he can keep 2 balers going with a twin spool wrapper (and used to do it with a single) why is the Fusion loosing so much time doing 4 more revolutions? Apart from changing plastic as I've already said.

I'd guess stopping and reversing for every bale on steep land, turning all the time in small fields and travelling around to multiple sites in a day will cause more time loss than that.

Waiting for bale to wrap.

 

[M-J-G]

Waiting for bale to wrap.

Why is it so much slower than a twin spool wrapper?
I'd assumed it would be just as quick.

 

[M-J-G]

Waiting for the bale to be made

In the chamber?

 

[DrDunc]

Why is it so much slower than a twin spool wrapper?
I'd assumed it would be just as quick.

Sure the fusion wraps in under a minute, so can't see why that would be the reason for crap output?

Must be the time to bugger about getting enough grass in the thing to make a bale

 

[Wellytrack]

Why is it so much slower than a twin spool wrapper?
I'd assumed it would be just as quick.

It’s not slower, it’s that’s it’s baling output in a heavy raked row can overtake the wrapper on 6 wraps.

 

[balerman]

Great idea go buy a clapped out fusion for 20k & put up with all the niggling break downs, then go buy desiel at 1.15/ltr and spend all summer cat farting round harvesting & lugging the dam things scuffing tyres & clocking hours on ur tractors meanwhile ill pay the local contractors guessing £80-100/acre done in a day thank u v much job done. I'm so so so glad we have our pit way things have gone......

I imagine an old Fusion would be a nightmare to own,contractors round here seem to have trouble keeping new ones going.McHale build quality not what it was im hearing.

 

[Still Farming]

I don't anyone in their right mind will quote for baling, wrapping etc this year as everytime you ring up for wrap, net, cord ,fuel, oil prices their different?

 

[M-J-G]

It’s not slower, it’s that’s it’s baling output in a heavy raked row can overtake the wrapper on 6 wraps.

That's what I thought, so there's no way a twin spool will keep up with 2 balers in reasonable conditions even if 4 layers were being applied

 

[Bossfarmer]

Great idea go buy a clapped out fusion for 20k & put up with all the niggling break downs, then go buy desiel at 1.15/ltr and spend all summer cat farting round harvesting & lugging the dam things scuffing tyres & clocking hours on ur tractors meanwhile ill pay the local contractors guessing £80-100/acre done in a day thank u v much job done. I'm so so so glad we have our pit way things have gone......

very reliable those fusions tbh, yes its a lot of work but if you have the tractors/trailers etc already is still better than a huge contractors bill plus having payments to make on ur own kit? i feed all my cattle outside for a few months in the back end which loose silage wouldnt work efficiently

 

[DrDunc]

That's what I thought, so there's no way a twin spool will keep up with 2 balers in reasonable conditions even if 4 layers were being applied

I've a twin spool Kuhn wrapper. It'll do 85 per hour on six layer, and easily over the hundred on 4 layer, but any misshapen bales, or traveling to find somewhere to drop them, and soon efficiency levels lower

 

[Wellytrack]

I've a twin spool Kuhn wrapper. It'll do 85 per hour on six layer, and easily over the hundred on 4 layer, but any misshapen bales, or traveling to find somewhere to drop them, and soon efficiency levels lower

There is theoretical output and actual output. Have one bale made and wrapped per minute and it’s good going.

 

[Ceri]

very reliable those fusions tbh, yes its a lot of work but if you have the tractors/trailers etc already is still better than a huge contractors bill plus having payments to make on ur own kit? i feed all my cattle outside for a few months in the back end which loose silage wouldnt work efficiently

People who do bales always go on about this huge contracting bill u get with a pit like as if u don't get one with bales......? Easy maths 10 bales/acre on our crops @ £10/bale = £100/acre........?????