Roundup on skin

Agriimark

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Arable Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
Personally i smell a rat, what were you spraying? happen to have 'two' accidents and it was 300ml? Not worth mixing, be just as quick to hand pull the weeds and save cost of chem. Do you have a picture of said roundup container and have you read the booklet on the side? That will tell you the dangers. Will have a mapp number to do you have that? Why did it take 2 hours to go for a shower? Anyone with a brain cell would wash chemical off straight away. And if in any doubt go to a hospital with the booklet off the container. Why was you told to use a stronger mix than requierd? Was this person qualified, why did they not do it if you are not. What has made someone from bulgaria join this forum today to just ask that straight away 🤔
 
I have often found that if you go dipping a part of your anatomy in something you shouldn't you can get quite an itch from it. Best not tell the wife mind.

I must say that my Guardian-o-meter is off the scale on this too. Therefore:

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RushesToo

Member
Location
Fingringhoe
Glyphosate is remarkably harmless, bacon is more likely to cause illness.
The "wetters" adjuvants in it can be harmful - they are very very toxic to amphibians but not humans, it just irritates.
The wikipedia entry is far longer than I have typed but is useful:

Without adjuvants you could probably drink is neat and little harm, probably diarrhoea as it will mess up your gut bacteria but aside from that not a lot.

Get some personal protective equipment [PPE that everyone has been mentioning] read the labels and use the internet for information.
A useful google search term is COSHH [Control of Substances Harmful to Health] - even washing machine liquids have these, and as an example it would be far more dangerous to swallow washing machine liquid pods [which chidren often do] than glyphosate.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Personally i smell a rat, what were you spraying? happen to have 'two' accidents and it was 300ml? Not worth mixing, be just as quick to hand pull the weeds and save cost of chem. Do you have a picture of said roundup container and have you read the booklet on the side? That will tell you the dangers. Will have a mapp number to do you have that? Why did it take 2 hours to go for a shower? Anyone with a brain cell would wash chemical off straight away. And if in any doubt go to a hospital with the booklet off the container. Why was you told to use a stronger mix than requierd? Was this person qualified, why did they not do it if you are not. What has made someone from bulgaria join this forum today to just ask that straight away 🤔
My sentiments too....wonder how long some of the comments will be repeated in some 'anti farming' organisations even though most are 'tongue in cheek '
Suspicious from the start !!
 

Agrivator

Member
It's going to be harmful/dangerous to the environment, it kills plants.

A number of herbicides are beneficial to the environment. There will be other examples, but the most obvious one is where creeping thistles are controlled, and the consequent absence of its allelopathic?? effect allows many wild flowers to flourish. I've said before, MCPA, 24,D, MCPB, MCPP among others, encourage wild flowers in permanent pasture and rough grazing to such an extent that their use in controlling thistles should be subsidised.

Glyphosate by spot-spray or weed wiper would have the same beneficial effect, and again should be encouraged by environmental payments.
 

Agrivator

Member
Good question. I had assumed that @jivkoss was in the UK, but perhaps not....


@jivkoss :
Some helpful background, stolen from a random website.

The legal bit: The law states that anyone who uses or applies pesticides in Agriculture, Horticulture, Forestry, Industry or Amenity workplaces must possess a valid Pesticide Certificate in order to comply with regulations. This legislation isn't optional and it applies to volunteers, employed and self-employed people alike.

Grandfather Rights

There is no longer an exemption in UK law, commonly known as "grandfather rights”. The Plant Protection Products (Sustainable Use) Regulations 2012 exemption ceased to exist from 27th November 2015. Everyone who now uses PPPs authorised for professional use must hold a Certificate of Competence.

The various PA pesticide course options can get a bit complicated, so we've made it easier for you to see what's needed, (but if you have any other questions, do give us a call):

PA1 is the Foundation Theory Module, assessing knowledge of basic legislation for pesticides. PA1 must be passed by anyone wishing to take any other PA units.

PA2 is needed by anyone wanting to operate mounted or trailed boom sprayers. A separate ‘weed wiper’ qualification is also available – please ask for details.

PA3 is for Broadcast or Variable Geometry Boom Sprayers (mounted or trailed), with or without air assistance; typically for orchards.

PA4s is needed by anyone wishing to apply slug pellets.

PA6 is needed by anyone wishing to apply pesticides using a hand-held lance or knapsack type applicator. The lance may be vehicle-mounted e.g. on a tractor or ATV.

What's the most illegal, irresponsible act you've ever committed? Or do you require counselling if the milkman leaves an extra pint by mistake?
I still have my school report where my Housemaster wrote: '' he has a healthy disrespect for all forms of authority''. That was one of the best compliments I've ever received. Apart from @glasshouse stating that I ''talk a lot of Shyte''.
 

Longlowdog

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
@Agrivator , in response to the frequency with which this topic is raised by first time posters I generally put one reasonable reply in then I default to 'facetious setting' and have a little fun. I am aware that herbicides can be beneficial whilst killing stuff.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
What's the most illegal, irresponsible act you've ever committed? Or do you require counselling if the milkman leaves an extra pint by mistake?
I still have my school report where my Housemaster wrote: '' he has a healthy disrespect for all forms of authority''. That was one of the best compliments I've ever received. Apart from @glasshouse stating that I ''talk a lot of Shyte''.
Some on the Forum never make mistakes .....I spotted that a while ago .....
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
What's the most illegal, irresponsible act you've ever committed? Or do you require counselling if the milkman leaves an extra pint by mistake?
I still have my school report where my Housemaster wrote: '' he has a healthy disrespect for all forms of authority''. That was one of the best compliments I've ever received. Apart from @glasshouse stating that I ''talk a lot of Shyte''.

I'm human and hence I break plenty rules - probably more so than most. And I also know what the rules are, which makes me a hypocrite, just like all humans. My only redeeming feature is that I try hard to avoid publically condoning rule breaking activities - especially when it has the potential to paint our industry in a negative light.

As to specific confessions, I'll refer back to my previous statement and leave that for private conversation if we ever meet.
 
I know a bloke who put a forklift tine through a 1000 l IBC. To try and save the glyphosphate he picked it up again properly and stood under it pushing rags into the hole. He had a proper shower in undiluted glyphosphate all over and had no negative effects.

Your rate is unnecessarily high too. The highest I ever use spot sprsying very tough to kill weeds is 1 litre to 100 litres of water.
 

Agrivator

Member
I reckon that most of the warnings etc on herbicide labels are taken from the USA versions. And the USA versions cover almost all conceivable warnings and terms and conditions, as a means of counteracting any claims by users who think of suing because they got a headache after using the product.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Hello,

at my job as a gardener, I spray roundup 5-6 times per year from 9 to 12 o'clock in the mornings. I accidentally spilled about 300ml of roundup on my skin twice. The roundup was diluted (200ml of roundup to 8l of water). I took a shower 2h after the accidents. After the second accident, my skin felt itchy, I suppose because of the roundup. Does anyone has had a similar experience and can you tell me what are the dangers? I read roundup is very toxic.
Any issues after.
 

Daddy Pig

Member
Location
dorset
I was listening to BBC radio Somerset about a month ago, they were interviewing a chap from Mendip District Council. They have stopped using glyphosate due to "the health risks and the danger to wildlife". they are now overrun with weeds as they have no other products they can use and are looking for volunteers to pull weeds by hand.
 
I was listening to BBC radio Somerset about a month ago, they were interviewing a chap from Mendip District Council. They have stopped using glyphosate due to "the health risks and the danger to wildlife". they are now overrun with weeds as they have no other products they can use and are looking for volunteers to pull weeds by hand.
They won’t be the only council to have land over run with weeds, ragwort in particular.
 

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