RSPCA dirty tricks?

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
I am fast coming to the conclusion that the RSPCA are unnecessarily agressive and unpleasant.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Society/article1261636.ece

It would appear from the above article that they will resort to any means to undermine those stand up to them or represent others. IMHO the "Royal" needs removing without delay.
they are like a small country dictatorship hounding people until they give in or take their own lives i have no respect for this so called animal charity all they care about is the bottom line ,give us your money,they have no real interest in animals or how they are cared for.
 

grumpy

Member
Location
Fife
I have no doubt there is members of the RSPCA who are motivated by good but no one should under estimate that Nazi party started with good intentions im always wary of folks who claim the moral high ground based on little knowledge but a lot of rhetoric.
 

Baker9

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N Ireland BT47
Well if you do not like them contact their royal patron and let her know your feelings. There is no point complaining on this forum, do something about this cancer that is out of control. Far from protecting animals their main purpose is money and political influence and sod the animals.
Lobby your MPs, get their charitable status removed, make lives of any of those at executive and vice president level difficult. By that I mean if anyone has contact with them question every move the group makes every court case they take. Like all large bodies they think they are all powerful and will bully and coerce anyone with less influence than them. If you read the link posted earlier it gives you an idea how they operate, they are like animal lib only they have bought the law.
 

grumpy

Member
Location
Fife
the funny thing is folks think they are the animal well fare law as they ware a uniform:LOL:are they feck they have no powers what so ever just the same as you or me and thats fact.
 

Fenris

New Member
If you are concerned about the way the RSPCA behave then please sign and share this petition

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43807

We ask the government to investigate the RSPCA's activities, especially where they infringe civil or legal rights.

Responsible department: Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

The RSPCA use "bully boy" tactics against innocent members of the public to bring prosecutions. They often infringe on citizens civil and legal rights.
They misuse funds which have been donated by members of the public specifically for animal welfare for their own political gain in bringing these often vexatious prosecutions. This petition asks that the government investigate fully the actions of the RSPCA, ensure that they are unable to prosecute anyone as that is the remit of the CPS and ensure tighter rules are in place from the charities commission to prevent registered charities from using funds for political lobbying or bringing private prosecutions.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
If you are concerned about the way the RSPCA behave then please sign and share this petition

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43807

We ask the government to investigate the RSPCA's activities, especially where they infringe civil or legal rights.

Responsible department: Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

The RSPCA use "bully boy" tactics against innocent members of the public to bring prosecutions. They often infringe on citizens civil and legal rights.
They misuse funds which have been donated by members of the public specifically for animal welfare for their own political gain in bringing these often vexatious prosecutions. This petition asks that the government investigate fully the actions of the RSPCA, ensure that they are unable to prosecute anyone as that is the remit of the CPS and ensure tighter rules are in place from the charities commission to prevent registered charities from using funds for political lobbying or bringing private prosecutions.
done lets hope they listen (y)
 

llamedos

New Member

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Humm... I find it difficult to identify the goodies from the baddies where lawyers and and the RSPCA are concerned. What I do know is the RSPCA should concentrate on it's original remit and leave the politicking to others. It was a good organisation that has sadly lost it's way.
 

llamedos

New Member
Humm... I find it difficult to identify the goodies from the baddies where lawyers and and the RSPCA are concerned. What I do know is the RSPCA should concentrate on it's original remit and leave the politicking to others. It was a good organisation that has sadly lost it's way.

http://www.legalweek.com/legal-week...ards-board-s-unwelcome-place-in-the-spotlight


Discussed by the Today programme last month, Five Paper Buildings’ barrister Jonathan Rich, who was brought up in front of the tribunal in light of criticisms from the RSPCA against which he frequently acted, discovered his sponsor barrister had acted for the RSPCA, creating a potential conflict of interest. This would have gone undetected had the sponsor’s name not been accidentally redacted from the case notes.
One silk comments: “I can’t begin to tell you the contempt I have for the BSB. To describe it as a kangaroo court is to be very charming about it. Their procedures are a shambles and the people sitting on their judging panels should not be.”
 

Baker9

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N Ireland BT47
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-22611352

Above is a story about USPCA (Ulster Society For The Protection Of Animals). The dog breedder in the story had 46 dogs lifted as the were alleged to be neglected. After 6 months he had 38 returned. The dogs had been "cared" for by various kennels contracted by the charity. The whereabouts of the other 8 is unknown as are the pups that would have been born.
He took a civil case against the charity and won as he was able to prove the dogs were in poor condition when they were returned, he also took a case against the police and reached an out of court settlement.
This is how to deal with these people, sue them every time they move. I would like them to try to interfere with Edward Haughey's (Norbrook Labs) business, they would regret that move or maybe they would not try it, they probably prefer bullying smaller fry.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
The whole issue of Charitable Status needs to be looked at.

There are thousands of "Animal Charities" in the UK from the RSPCA, RSPB, CATS PROTECTION to Local Sanctuaries.

Some do good work, while others simply provide a living for those that run them.

They all benefit from Tax Breaks in the form of Gift Aid, Rates Relief and Inheritance Tax concessions.

Anybody can Register a Charity. Providing you have a Constitution, and your "Objects Clause" fits the current requirements, you are Home and Dry. (I have been involved with registering several Local Organizations, involved with the Arts, Education or Local and Family History etc., as Charities over the years.)

Get the wording right, and I have no doubt it would be possible to Register a Charity known as SEHVBH&F. (The Society for the Education and Humane Treatment of Vegans, Bunny Huggers & other Freaks.)

It would qualify under several headings.

Educational, Religious - providing you start a new sect., Public Interest and Medical Research.

Might be interesting to try, as it does not cost anything and only requires Form Filling.

Once Registered there is little or no Control.

Providing you submit Annual Accounts, and Reports, they leave you to get on with it.
 

RobFZS

Member
Every big 'charity' is out of hand now, none of them are up for stopping the cause they fight for else they'd all be out of a job.
 

Cooper3075

Member
Location
North Derbyshire
They pray on old people a farmer and dog trainer I know has been banned for 3 years and now a further 5 as he didn't regime his sheep and dogs in the set time I saw his dogs and his sheep and know the dog the trouble started with and yes he did fail one dog but it was sorted he is over 70 and a litte set in his ways but made one silly mistake the dog made a full recovery it was a badly healed broken leg that had to be removed as the dog limped after it had reset and he was reported they took the dog removed the leg and gave it back till months later taking him on a long court battle and banning him after over 55 years of sheep dog training he found it hard to part with the hence going over the set date for rehomeing so they did him and his wife this time for 5 year ban I've not heard or seen him since! Bit worrying really he spent every market day at the market talking to folk. The sheepdogs where all taken probly put down! As we looked at all the RSPCA sites for them up for rehomeing but found none most where good working dogs just glad I'd bought mine off him a few months before or she may have had the same fate.
 
The whole issue of Charitable Status needs to be looked at.

There are thousands of "Animal Charities" in the UK from the RSPCA, RSPB, CATS PROTECTION to Local Sanctuaries.

Some do good work, while others simply provide a living for those that run them.

They all benefit from Tax Breaks in the form of Gift Aid, Rates Relief and Inheritance Tax concessions.

Anybody can Register a Charity. Providing you have a Constitution, and your "Objects Clause" fits the current requirements, you are Home and Dry. (I have been involved with registering several Local Organizations, involved with the Arts, Education or Local and Family History etc., as Charities over the years.)

Maybe there should be a charity set up to one to watch over the RSPCA directly all you really need is a website to use to report and monitor every case the RSPCA instigate as well as every inspection they under take. Any member of the public could then have a single point of reference to publish there experience with updates etc.

The numbers of animals that the RSPCA destroy every week could be published. Their accounts could be scrutinized to demonstrate how much of the charitable contributions are spent on executives salaries, vehicle costs, advertising/propaganda, seminars/events and jolly's etc.

Notifications could be published informing people of the limited powers held by the RSPCA they have no rights to trespass implied or other wise! The limitations of the Police powers should also be published when they are in support of the RSPCA.

A fighting fund could be established in order to assist or publicise vexatious and vindictive cases exposing both the RSPCA and the person informing the RSPCA. Maybe even launch a legal challenge against the continuance of their charitable status as they are far more business and politically motivated.

I'm sure there are plenty of other aspects that could be presented.

The problem with this type of approach is that there are cases that are clearly cases of animal abuse, which may make it look like that activity was condoned regardless of the fact that wouldn't be the case.


Every single person involved with animals should file a FOI request to establish the extent to which the Police have been exposing personal information to the RSPCA and also requesting information about any other organisations that may have a similar arrangement. The Police are in breach of the data protection act and should be prosecuted accordingly as well as the RSPCA.

Everyone should also make a request to ensure that their personal information has not been supplied to the RSPCA by the Police.

PM's should be raising parliamentary questions about this gross violation of privacy! This situation really needs to be capitalised on to question the activities and practices of this so called animal welfare charity. The queen should also be petitioned as she would appear to have some involvement with them and their unlawful activities. I seriously doubt that she will be responsive, as her past record of human rights violations would suggest that she has nothing but contempt for the useless eaters both domestic and foreign.

This type of activity is going to be on the increase as the claws of the EU and corrupt our State bite ever deeper. People really need to recognise the fact that we are living in a fascist state. Once companies such as SERCO Group PLC and G4S are embedded fully within the Police and health services etc. this type of data abuse will be far more common IMHO. An FOI may even reveal that G4S and SERCO already have a data access agreement. YTube > The Biggest Company You Never Heard Of. Hardly surprising that all these organisations are gaining access to our personal data and seem to have magic powers.

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