RSPCA seek to end "factory farming"

Doc

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Livestock Farmer
This is dangerous. They have disproportionate access to the media because they sell themselves well.
The Ag industry in the UK really needs to get off its arse with the climate change debate and argue its case with facts. Proactive rather than reactive would be good.
Linking pandemic zoonotic risk is also a massive potential issue that needs to be sensibly and articulately snuffed out or at least sensibly contextualised.
I despair at the impotence the Ag industry in the UK. The very bodies we fund to fight, or at least market, our cause are at best unhelpful and at worst complicit.
Im no expert in marketing/advertising but I can guarantee I could make a better fist of things than the current shower of S... we look to.
FFS.
 

yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
From the article......

They say it is a major cause of greenhouse gas emissions and risks starting new pandemics by spreading viruses, as well as causing deforestation, animal cruelty and antibiotic resistance.

A very sweeping statement trying to play on the current difficulties re Covid and climate change. It's a massive leap from a farrowing house to a global pandemic :banghead:

As @Doc says, it needs some positive action from UK agriculture.
 

beardface

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Location
East Yorkshire
They want to go preach in places like China or South America. All that will happen is we will export our issues abroad and likely increase the issues such as deforestation. Surely the RSPCA has now stepped out of its remit as an animal charity, whose sole responsibility is the care of sick and injured animals and become a political activist group? If so then surely they should be stripped of there charitable status?
 

delilah

Member
The issue isn't the 'factory farming' bit, it is the 'cut in meat and dairy' you should be focusing on. Not least because your national representative bodies have no interest whatsoever in challenging it, indeed in many ways are supporting it.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
From the article......

They say it is a major cause of greenhouse gas emissions and risks starting new pandemics by spreading viruses, as well as causing deforestation, animal cruelty and antibiotic resistance.

A very sweeping statement trying to play on the current difficulties re Covid and climate change. It's a massive leap from a farrowing house to a global pandemic :banghead:

As @Doc says, it needs some positive action from UK agriculture.
It is a major cause. But it's indirect.

If it wasn't for farming feeding billions of degenerate fùckwads, then the world would be a far better place. Most of the problems wouldn't exist, because so many people wouldn't exist.

If you can breed 9 children and still not know how to grow carrots or catch fish, then don't bite the hand that feeds
 
As I have pointed out previously, there is every possibility of a killer bird flu or swine flue affecting humans in the West as much as anywhere else. If you keep thousands of individuals in intensive conditions it is obviously a breeding ground for viruses. Obviously in the developed world their contact with humans is strictly controlled and very limited. But we must recognise that confinement agriculture has it's drawbacks and there are clearly alternatives the UK consumer could explore. The industry has no need to apologise for what it does in reacting to market demand but I personally couldn't care less if a £2 chicken was no longer a thing.
 

GeorgeK

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Location
Leicestershire
I studied marketing and the rise of anti farming groups is quite a problem. The first thing we learnt was advertising is the last, smallest and weakest part of marketing. Successful marketing is all about identifying and exploiting trends.
The problem is the anti farming adverts are only taking advantage of deeper societal and demographic trends. As has been noted on this forum the loss of connection between consumers and food is the root of the problem. Food is taken for granted and there is no understanding of the practicalities of it's production. The anti farming "Compassionate, eco-friendly, blame someone else and save the world without leaving your sofa" message is an easy sell to people who are removed from the realities of how the world must be fed.
Trends are deep rooted and notoriously difficult and usually impossible to create or steer. Adverts mostly reflect trends, they don't direct them. In our situation adverts are a sticking plaster, they can't turn the tide. It's hard to overstate what a challenge it will be to change the direction of things, but the only real solution would probably have to begin at the start by physically reconnecting people with food production
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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