- Location
- Essex
As above. I had a farm assurance inspection recently, and was told that nothing to do with Sugar Beet was being inspected because British Sugar no longer require FA!
RT Farm Assurance no longer required by British Sugar.
- Thread starter Bill Turtle
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- Location
- Romney Marsh
Great decision......hopefully a few more will follow.
FA was a great idea, but never really worked. Superseded by all the cross compliance rules make it pointless in this day and age.
It appears all the food problems appear after the raw ingredients leave the farm gate.
FA was a great idea, but never really worked. Superseded by all the cross compliance rules make it pointless in this day and age.
It appears all the food problems appear after the raw ingredients leave the farm gate.
Farmer T
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- Location
- East Midlands
I don't know how true this is- in other words I don't think this is true at all.
NFU Sugar managed to get NSF to drop the extra payment for sugar beet but I'm sure British Sugar still produce Red Tractor sugar.
NFU Sugar managed to get NSF to drop the extra payment for sugar beet but I'm sure British Sugar still produce Red Tractor sugar.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Are you sure? British Sugar fieldsman wanted details a few days ago and would not allow beet to be delivered to Wissy factory without.
- Location
- Yorks
Oh, shock, horror, this is terrible news 
How can British Sugar possibly sell their product, surely no one will buy it. Supermarkets won't want it, cake manufacturers who supply supermarkets won't want it will they?
Anyone who suggest that farm assurance is essential and it adds value and we can't do without it, watch and see if British sugar's sales drop because of this. I doubt they will.
I hope this is the beginning of the end of something which just piles cost onto my business and gives nothing in return.
Edit. No idea if it is true about them dropping farm assurance.
How can British Sugar possibly sell their product, surely no one will buy it. Supermarkets won't want it, cake manufacturers who supply supermarkets won't want it will they?
Anyone who suggest that farm assurance is essential and it adds value and we can't do without it, watch and see if British sugar's sales drop because of this. I doubt they will.
I hope this is the beginning of the end of something which just piles cost onto my business and gives nothing in return.
Edit. No idea if it is true about them dropping farm assurance.
- Location
- Essex
I was surprised at the news, and have no way of verifying either way what I was told at my inspection.
By posting it on here, truth will out as they say.
By posting it on here, truth will out as they say.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Can be verified easily by asking your fieldsman. Probably a lot more accurate than asking on here!! I will check tomorrow but shall be amazed if FA no longer required.
If correct this is certainly very interesting news
I have a meeting wit RT at stoneligh next week, they want to hear about my issue with the scheme and it's fitness for purpose following the threads about it on here over the last year or 2 ..........should be interesting !
I have a meeting wit RT at stoneligh next week, they want to hear about my issue with the scheme and it's fitness for purpose following the threads about it on here over the last year or 2 ..........should be interesting !
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
I hope you will give them a cross sector view of the scheme and why farmers from every sector are far from happy with it Clive.
I can only talk about arable from a position of knowledge, no good me talking about livestock when I don't even know how the schemes work for you guys. If they want informed feedback on livestock schemes they need a livestock farmer to talk to
However I strongly suspect the fundamental issues are common across all sectors
I will do my best and wont pull any punches don't worry ! but remember I am just a farmer, I'm not setting out to represent the industry, i'm just telling them straight what I think is wrong with it all (most of which has been more than covered in threads on here in the past)
Ask them about Project FORT
Farmer T
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- Location
- East Midlands
The Red Tractor statuary rules cover combinable crops and sugar beet. British Sugar and sugar beet growers are audited by Red Tractor to ensure they can use the Red Tractor logo.
The whole beet industry needs the logo to ensure trust in the product and use it as a selling point. Sugar cane can be be produced cheaper and with Brexit and tariff rules all making things unclear BS aren't going to drop the Red Tractor.
However the extra payment the major auditing company charged has been dropped thank to NFU Sugar. The auditor used to get £5/audit extra so they're probably just annoyed on missing out on the extra [emoji383]
tell me more please ? (or PM if you prefer) its not something I know anything about
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
It might be usefull if you suggest to them that they organize similar meetings with farmers from all sectors.
I will certainly suggest that, they may already be doing so
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Thanks, they might be but it needs to be with people that wont tell them what they want to hear but will tell them what they don't want to hear ( ie why farmers are so unhappy with the scheme )
I couldn't agree more - they are not short of "yes men" thats seems to be for sure ! (must resist tagging anyone in this post !
)Asking me to meet them does at least show they are willing to listen to their critics which is a good first step assuming they haven't simply invited me to tell me a million reasons why I am wrong that is !
we will see next week